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A fact from Plantagenet Alliance appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 April 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the Plantagenet Alliance went to court 529 years after Richard III died to complain that their human rights had been violated because they were not consulted on his place of burial?
Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion
Dalliance, if you wish to remove the quote you should discuss it here and gain consensus for your proposed change rather than try to edit war it out - that's how WP works. The quote is material as effectively accuses PA of abuse of process. The fact that he broadens out into a general complaint about abuse of judicial review, of which he says this is an xample, only makes it more significant. DeCausa (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
The quote gives undue prominence to a partial and selective interpretation of events. The High Court didn't think the case was 'nonsensical' in August 2013 when they gave permission for the review and granted the protective costs order. Grayling's comment about it being at 'ridiculous expense to taxpayers' makes no mention that a substantial part of the expense was down to Grayling and the MoJ. They ignored Mr. Justice Haddon-Cave's suggestion that the case should be referred to an independent panel and also appealed the award of the PCO to the wrong court, incurring further expense. I agree that Grayling's views on the process have a place in this entry. However, they are adequately reflected in the paragraph before the quote we are discussing. Regards. Dalliance (talk) 12:10, 13 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
No, the quotes prior to the main quote don't make the broader political point. This raises the Plantagenet Alliance from being a rather eccentric/silly sideshow into something approaching political significance (even if not quite getting there). It's therefore a notable quote. The quote was widely reported at the time and that needs to be reflected too. Whether it is somehow "unfair" on the PA is irrelevant. The reliable sources gave this quote great prominence. We reflect the reliable sources: NPOV is not about adjusting them to make them allegedly "fair" per WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. DeCausa (talk) 18:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)Reply
Her involvement isn't relevant to this article. (She didn't "lead" the dig anyway. The Exhumation and reburial of Richard III of England article uses the description "initiated by Philippa Langley and the Looking for Richard project with the support of the Richard III Society. The archaeological excavation was led by the University of Leicester Archaeological Services, working in partnership with Leicester City Council". But all that is irrelevant detail for this artcile.) DeCausa (talk) 09:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
