Talk:Platinum jubilee
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Unreferenced Claim
editThe claim that a British monarch's 70th anniversary would be called a "Platinum Jubilee" is completely unreferenced. Is there any reason why it shouldn't be removed? --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 12:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- So be proactive! It is common knowledge that a platinum jubilee (in commwealth usuage) is 70 years. If you think that needs a reference, get one and add it! P M C 14:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- As the Commonwealth has never seen a 70-year reign how can there be any historical usage?--L.E./12.144.5.2 (talk) 02:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- The burden of proof lies with the editors asserting a statement not with those who question it.Greenshed (talk) 01:39, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Citation needed tag
editIs there some specific reason why the Commonwealth usage of the term has been flagged as needing a reference, whereas the American usage has not? Either both need to be referenced, or neither do. P M C 19:33, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- The article now appears to have a general "Additional citations needed" template - perhaps reflective of the 70 versus 75 year edit war going on.
- BBC News seem to think it's 70 years in this Magazine article... Mittfh (talk) 18:21, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- The core content policy (Wikipedia:Verifiability) states that "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed." If the Commonwealth usage is challenged (which it appears to be) then it needs a citation. If no one is challenging or likely to challenge the American usage then getting a citation is optional (although still a good thing). 01:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
60 = Diamond Jubliee; 75 = Platinum Jubliee
editIncorrect usage of the 60 years and 75 years to mark the jubilees. Check this with the Oxford dictionary, which is the primary reference for English as a language.
60 = Diamond Jubliee; 75 = Platinum Jubliee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staryash (talk • contribs) 16:06, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
- 75th is traditionally "diamond" as well,though "golden diamond" has been proposed for the Queen's 75th if she makes it that far!--L.E./12.144.5.2 (talk) 02:46, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 7 May 2015
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 04:49, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Platinum Jubilee → Platinum jubilee – (1) If it is about a specific event, e.g. the British queen's Platinum Jubilee, its name might be capitalised. But the general concept is not. (2) The renaming would be in line with the other articles in the same group (silver jubilee, golden jubilee, ruby jubilee, etc.). iudexvivorum (talk) 04:40, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support - seems obvious enough Red Slash 02:39, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- Support - As they've all been moved this may aswell join them. –Davey2010Talk 02:46, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Only four monarchs?
editCurrently we have "Among monarchies, it usually refers to a 70th anniversary. Thus far only four known monarchs have celebrated this anniversary" in this article. However at List of longest-reigning monarchs there are 19 monarchs who have reigned over 70 years or more. Perhaps just celebrating a 70th anniversary since accession is insufficient but if so this needs to be made clear with reference to reliable sources. Greenshed (talk) 01:36, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Conversely,have even the four monarchs cited held celebrations of the anniversary in question under the name "platinum jubilee"?(King Sobhuza of Swaziland held celebrations in 1981 for his "60th" anniversary on the throne,dating from his assumption of powers from his regent rather than his designation as king as an infant).--L.E./12.144.5.2 (talk) 20:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Article says: " Among monarchies, it usually refers to a 70th anniversary."
I object to the use of the word "usually." It means most of the time but not all of the time, that is, there are a few times when a plantinum jubilee refers to semething other than a 70th anniversary. So what are those other things? Or is the word "usually" used just in case there are any, even though the writer isn't aware of any? 74.104.189.176 (talk) 15:59, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Etym & RFC on moves
editFrom the discussion at Talk:Golden jubilee:
Yes, there should be a much better treatment on the origin of the idea. Currently, the only thing Wikipedia has is an offhand mention on "Anniversary" that Emily Post had a rump list of materials in her Etiquette. Surely she was merely reporting on the usual conventions in upper class society at the time, though, and there should be something from before that on where this specific connection between gold and 50 came from. Wiktionary entries and OED cites seem to suggest that the original English usage was jubilee for 50 years; that the Germans started having family celebrations at 25 and 50 years distinguished as the silver and gold jubilees, feasts, or "weddings" (one German word for "wedding" being inclusive of anniversary celebrations); that these were known to the English but uncommon except as descriptions of German habits until the 1850s or so, presumably becoming more common through the German connections of the monarchy; and developed into something of a hierarchy by the end of Victoria's reign (her 50th year as queen was the Royal Jubilee but the 60th was the Diamond Jubilee) and by 1922 Emily Post had a full list in Etiquette for 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 50, 75. (Ignoring that Vicky's diamond was the 60th anniversary, she marked the 75th as diamond.)
Kindly fix the historical and etymological parts of this page here but direct other replies there. — LlywelynII 06:38, 30 March 2022 (UTC)