Talk:Playgirl (disambiguation)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Result: There is no consensus to move the article ~~ GB fan ~~ 15:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

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Playgirl (disambiguation) → Playgirl — The magazine is not the primary topic worldwide. Per WP:Systemic bias, the disambig page should be the primary topic. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 12:00, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

• Playgirl → Playgirl (magazine)

Interesting claim... it's essentially a four-way DAB, between the magazine, the Japanese TV series together with its film spinoff, and two earlier films, 1932 and 1941, neither of which seem particularly notable, no awards or award nominations listed in the relevant articles for example. I doubt anyone would claim that the 1932 and 1941 films could compete with the magazine to be primary topic, so I guess the claim is that the Japanese TV series etc does, and the mention of worldwide above seems to support this. Evidence? Andrewa (talk) 18:53, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Playgirl (disambiguation) → Playgirl, Support Playgirl → Playgirl (magazine) (with a redirect from Playgirl to Playgirl (disambiguation)) — a "playgirl" is first of all "a young woman who is devoted to the pursuit of pleasure" (wiktionary:playgirl). It is also a magazine, etc., so it needs the disambig page. Wikiscient (talk) 22:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

That would be contrary to guidance on the placement of disambiguation pages. That is, if there is no article at Playgirl and Playgirl redirects to the disambiguation page, then the disambiguation page should be at Playgirl. older ≠ wiser 22:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that is basically what I am saying I'm in favor of (ie., as described at WP:Disambig).Wikiscient (talk) 22:42, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Then you don't actually oppose moving Playgirl (disambiguation) → Playgirl. older ≠ wiser 23:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

• I second Andrewa's request for evidence. Is there any evidence that the Japanese productions are known to any extent in the English-language world comparable to that of the magazine? older ≠ wiser 22:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. Even if the magazine is not well known world-wide, the other uses are no better off, meaning the magazine is still the primary topic. Powers ^T 20:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose. Disambiguation is about navigation. If a million people search for "Playgirl" looking for the magazine, and a thousand people search for "Playgirl" looking for another usage, it doesn't matter if the million people are all American and the thousand people are all Japanese; what matters is that it's a million vs. a thousand. That's not a pro-American bias. (Also note that WP:Systemic bias is an essay and not a guideline or policy.) Propaniac (talk) 18:31, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose The magazine is clearly primary. --JaGa^talk 18:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.