Talk:Pokémon Black and White/GA4

GA Review

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Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 16:52, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I shall take this review. The very first time I have ever been involved with anything relating to Pokemon, so I can be properly impartial. Expect me to have something for you within the week. --ProtoDrake (talk) 16:52, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Review

Right, here we go. To start off, the sources are good and the image licenses seem alright. The rest of the articles (fairly minor) issues are mostly formatting and grammar.

Lead

• "Black and White introduced 156 new Pokémon to the franchise, 5 more than the previous record holder Red and Blue, as well as many new features..." - Red and Blue should be italicized.

• Done. Tezero (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Plot

• "One particular example of this is Castelia City, which served as the region's central metropolis.." - I think it should be "serves" rather than "served", as the rest of the sentence is in present tense when not talking about its inspiration.

• Done. Tezero (talk) 16:04, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• I've been reverted... ☠ Jaguar ☠ 16:06, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• What do you mean? Did someone tell you to change it to the other way earlier? Tezero (talk) 16:19, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oh no, Ryulong reverted my edit in this diff, hinting it's favourable to leave it in past tense but I don't know which tense to use? ☠ Jaguar ☠ 17:49, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Oh. ...Actually, I think I prefer it in the past tense, since it's referring to the original Black and White's events in Black and White 2. Eh, I'm fine either way; some way just has to be picked. Tezero (talk) 17:53, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• I agree, I'm fine with it in past tense too! Maybe Black and White 2 would be more acceptable in present tense, but that being said there is no accurate timeline in any Pokemon generation... ☠ Jaguar ☠ 17:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure they take place in sequential order. I know Gen 2 takes place after Gen 1, as attributed by people in the game referencing events from three years prior. At the very least, we know B/W2 are sequels to B/W1. Tezero (talk) 18:03, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Definitely, I think Gen 1-2 and B/W1-B/W2 are the only games that actually reference a timeline (X/Y references Gary Oak from Gen 1). ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Promotion and release

• For pre-order ticket holders, an alternate-colored Raikou, Entei, or Suicune was available for transfer to their Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, or SoulSilver games. At the theater, players would be able to download a Celebi to the same games. Both of these Pokémon would activate special events in Black and White involving Zoroark and Zorua, respectively." - Is there a reference to back this up?

• I KNOW I found one earlier, and I thought it was in the article. Wonder what happened to it. Tezero (talk) 17:55, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Don't worry, added appropriate references. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 17:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Music

• "Go Ichinose was in charge of directing all Pokémon voices for the game while Minako Adachi produced all sound effects." - Same as above?

• Fixed, I think? ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:21, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• I didn't see any reference for the information. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Not to be lazy, but I wonder if that needs a citation. It could easily be found in the game's credits or manual - which I don't happen to have on me at the moment... Tezero (talk) 18:28, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Ah sorry, I thought that this was a copyediting issue. I'll try to find a suitable reference. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:32, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Added two references. I hope these are alright, but I'm thinking that the actual game manual would suffice too. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• Yeah, they're fine. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Reception

• "Pokémon Black and White'' have received largely positive reviews by critics..." - Two too many italics on "White".

• Fixed. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 17:59, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

References

• Refs 107 and 115 need archiving given the site's recent tendency to be down, and if possible Refs 81 and 107 need filling out a bit with the article author, publication date and such, if possible. Also some name arrangement issues: the author names should really be last-first, and I've seen first-last usage in Refs 32, 48, 55, 56, 106, 112, 115 and 116.

• Tezero archived ref 107 and 115, and I think I've sorted out the author names in the rest of the references. I'm going to double check if anything needs fleshing out but for now I think that's it? ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:16, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

And.. that's it really. That's everything. When these issues are resolved or adequately explained, the article can pass. --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:40, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Right, all issues have been resolved, and as a second look-over doesn't show anything, I'll rank this as a Pass. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:39, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the review ProtoDrake! ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. By the way, could either of you look at the Lightning FAC if you want to? It's got one support so far. I don't mean to sound like we're exchanging favors, but I don't want Lightning's FAC to go the same way as the Squall Leonhart one. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:43, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I've got another FAC to look at so I'll leave some comments down on both of them tomorrow morning. It's always annoying when FACs get closed due to inactivity. ☠ Jaguar ☠ 18:47, 22 October 2014 (UTC)