Talk:Polar wind
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Proposed merge of Earth's ambipolar electric field into Polar wind
editI've copied and integrated most of the content of "Earth's ambipolar electric field". At this point that topic is not sufficiently notable to be separate from Polar wind. Johnjbarton (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Per discussions on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#Can_any_encyclopedia-article_title_here,_start_with_these_exact_words? I assume that @Dicklyon supports this merge. @Andrew Davidson as creator, please weigh in. Johnjbarton (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! I am 'a Norwegian IP', and i have voiced opposition (on another wikipedia), about (its) "Ambipolar electric field" article - since the end of August.--Within half a week, i hope to have copied, to this talk page - the main (relevant) arguments, that until now, have been used (on talk-pages on wikipedia), about what is 'not okay' about the article, "Earth's ambipolar electric field".--However, I am absolutely not asking anyone to wait, about giving their own opinion, or to wait about referring to the views of others, or facts stated by others.--And yeah, Merge is what i am leaning (hard) toward, and justification for that, should follow within, say, a 'few' days. Thank you. 2001:2020:31B:D1A2:45B3:3A4:A6D4:6CA9 (talk) 18:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Update from 'a Norwegian IP' : I am not displeased about 'aggressively bad stuff' having been removed from (relevant) articles on English-wiki.--For now, I am leaning toward Neutral, in regard to Merging-before-Delete.
('Spinning a snowball-Keep', seems at least as doable as other options.)--I am guessing that a dozen of minor threads, will be started over the next seven days; there might be c. no drama in that. Regards! 2001:2020:305:DCFD:1084:26CA:F3C4:A50F (talk) 17:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! I am 'a Norwegian IP', and i have voiced opposition (on another wikipedia), about (its) "Ambipolar electric field" article - since the end of August.--Within half a week, i hope to have copied, to this talk page - the main (relevant) arguments, that until now, have been used (on talk-pages on wikipedia), about what is 'not okay' about the article, "Earth's ambipolar electric field".--However, I am absolutely not asking anyone to wait, about giving their own opinion, or to wait about referring to the views of others, or facts stated by others.--And yeah, Merge is what i am leaning (hard) toward, and justification for that, should follow within, say, a 'few' days. Thank you. 2001:2020:31B:D1A2:45B3:3A4:A6D4:6CA9 (talk) 18:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Crystal-clear, or not?
edit"It is one of several mechanisms for the outflow of ionized particles and it typically refers to ions accelerated by ambipolar electric fields ". 2001:2020:31B:D1A2:45B3:3A4:A6D4:6CA9 (talk) 18:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
C/e needed?
edit"Additional mechanisms including ion acceleration by solar photoelectrons escaping along magnetic field lines".--Comment: "includes" - would that be a 'better word'? 2001:2020:31B:D1A2:45B3:3A4:A6D4:6CA9 (talk) 19:01, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
"Research" section or in the lede or (possibly) where?
edit'Research stepping-stones' etc. in regard to the decades of research - should that be in History section or Research section?
"Ions accelerated by a polarization electric field (also[1] known as an ambipolar electric field) is believed to be the primary cause of polar wind, according to a research paper in 2020; furthermore, similar processes operate on other planets.[2]"
(For now, the article could (arguably and) easily be interpreted as 'almost all' research stems (or stemming) from the 2022 rocket-flight.) 2001:2020:305:DCFD:1084:26CA:F3C4:A50F (talk) 17:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree with your assessment. I have made additions to clarify in any case. Johnjbarton (talk) 22:55, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Many (most?) readers will come here to find out more about the '2024 music-video from NASA', or just video.--One reads about a 2022 rocket-flight, so one could (easily?) conclude that 'most' of the 'results or information', are from years 2022 to 2024.--If year 2020 (and 'its' paper is not a milestone), then which year(s) between 1960 and 2020, have 'the milestone(s)?--That there is no hurry to fix this, is sort of my view.--User:Johnjbarton has a steady hand on the rudder, it seems. Much of the article's text is now quite fine, and some might be excellent. Regards! 2001:2020:331:9A41:A02C:EC8D:EB24:5952 (talk) 03:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC) /2001:2020:305:DCFD:1084:26CA:F3C4:A50F
Year 1968, seems to be 'only' mentioned (in the wiki-article), in regard to coining the phrase Polar wind. If the year is a milestone for the research, then that might not be clear from the wiki-article.--No big deal, for now, I might add. 2001:2020:331:9A41:A02C:EC8D:EB24:5952 (talk) 03:55, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
The year of at least one of the satellites, should perhaps be mentioned.--1969 had the ISIS-2 satellite.--If it feels obvious, which of the satellites could be considered 'more important than the others', then please let this Talk page, know. 2001:2020:331:9A41:C6B:E252:C84F:90BF (talk) 05:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Many (most?) readers will come here to find out more about the '2024 music-video from NASA', or just video.--One reads about a 2022 rocket-flight, so one could (easily?) conclude that 'most' of the 'results or information', are from years 2022 to 2024.--If year 2020 (and 'its' paper is not a milestone), then which year(s) between 1960 and 2020, have 'the milestone(s)?--That there is no hurry to fix this, is sort of my view.--User:Johnjbarton has a steady hand on the rudder, it seems. Much of the article's text is now quite fine, and some might be excellent. Regards! 2001:2020:331:9A41:A02C:EC8D:EB24:5952 (talk) 03:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC) /2001:2020:305:DCFD:1084:26CA:F3C4:A50F
References
- ^ Ionospheres: Physics, Plasma Physics, and Chemistry by Schunk and Nagy.[index entry,] "ambipolar electric field (see polarization electric field)"
- ^ Gronoff, G.; Arras, P.; Baraka, S.; Bell, J. M.; Cessateur, G.; Cohen, O.; Curry, S. M.; Drake, J. J.; Elrod, M.; Erwin, J.; Garcia-Sage, K.; Garraffo, C.; Glocer, A.; Heavens, N. G.; Lovato, K. (August 2020). "Atmospheric Escape Processes and Planetary Atmospheric Evolution". Journal of Geophysical Research: Space Physics. 125 (8). Bibcode:2020JGRA..12527639G. doi:10.1029/2019JA027639. ISSN 2169-9380.