Talk:Polish–Lithuanian War/Archives/2022/November

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Cukrakalnis in topic huh


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I've been visiting this page every few months for the past decade. This November I found the entire article to be rewritten by a handful of Lithuanian nationalists, relying exclusively on Lithuanian sources. The page talk page is of course empty as these people do not intend to discuss their "improvements" with anyone in an objective manner. Instead they get together on discord in an attempt to rewrite history and push a specific narrative of Polish aggression against Lithuania. Even going as far as calling the result of the conflict a "stalemate". I encourage these people go ahead and find a single non-Lithuanian source that describes the result of this conflict as anything other than a Polish victory. Cuteandfunny (talk) 13:24, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

Are you aware that one of the archives of this talk page ([1]) has 30k bytes? Also, most of the edits have WP:EDITSUMMARIES which also constitute a form of discussion. Where is that handful of Lithuanian nationalists? You just keep doing WP:PERSONALATTACKS and making false statements.
Did you look at the events described in this article? The 1919 Polish coup d'état attempt in Lithuania and Central Lithuanian Offensive on Kaunas, which are clear parts of this Polish–Lithuanian War, aimed at destroying Lithuanian independence. Unless you consider such actions by a larger country against a smaller to not be aggression, then you should realize that this was indeed the case. I remind you about the definition of stalemate by Cambridge Dictionary:
a situation in which neither group involved in an argument can win or get an advantage and no action can be taken
That is the exact word that can sum up the Polish–Lithuanian War. Neither did Poland achieve its initial goal of conquering all of Lithuania (an idea prevalent throughout the Polish political spectrum at the time, which both Józef Piłsudski and Roman Dmowski held as well) despite seizing Vilnius, nor did Lithuania establish control over all of the lands that it wanted to, as a sizeable part of the lands it saw its own were under Polish control.
I inform you about WP:FINDSOURCESFORME. Cukrakalnis (talk) 16:48, 29 November 2022 (UTC)