Talk:Political party strength in Puerto Rico
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Demonstrating both Puerto Rican and U.S. parties?
editIt could be helpful to somehow visually display party shading for elected officials' Puerto Rican and U.S. party affiliations. Any ideas on how to shade for both parties at once? For example, having different color schemes for PNP/R and PNP/D, or for PNP/D and PPD/D? Qqqqqq (talk) 20:48, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- You realize that you are missing various national electoral parties? Partido Socialista de Puerto Rico, Partido Liberal Puertorriqueño, Partido Socialista Puertorriqueño, Partido Estadista Republicano, Partido Republicano, Partido Accion Cristiana, Partido Puertorriqueños por Puerto Rico, and Partido Renovación Puertorriqueña. I think thats about it, but I might be wrong. Beware of recentism, we have a much richer political history than the last 20 or so years say we do. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 00:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Partido Alianza Puertorriqueña, Partido Socialista Constitucional, and Partido Constitucional Historico. Also, "Partido Republicano" should be Partido Republicano Puertorriqueño. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 00:54, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for my delay in seeing your response. Thanks for the more complete list. Did any of those parties ever have one of its members elected to the governorship, the legislature, or the U.S. House? Qqqqqq (talk) 18:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- All of them, either directly or in coalition. --Cerejota (talk) 23:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can't seem to find any mention of most of these minor parties' having had representation in either house of the legislature. Do you have any more information? Qqqqqq (talk) 20:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Partido Unión Puertorrioqueña (PUP), a pro-independence party to the right of the moderately socialist (at the time) PIP and the hard-line socialist PSP, appeared on the 1972 ballot and was founded by economist Toño González, the PIP's 1968 gubernatorial candidate. Pr4ever (talk) 00:17, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Alright, the article has most of these now. Do you have any more information (or know where links can be redirected) for the remaining redlinks? Qqqqqq (talk) 21:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can't seem to find any mention of most of these minor parties' having had representation in either house of the legislature. Do you have any more information? Qqqqqq (talk) 20:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- All of them, either directly or in coalition. --Cerejota (talk) 23:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't get this page
editI really don't. Why should I not request it be deleted? Throw me a bone here... :) Also, it might be a good idea to build the page in userspace and then move it to mainspace when ready. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 00:36, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- There's a whole series of these articles—they're designed to show the political progression within a particular state or territory. Much of this information is listed elsewhere on Wikipedia; these articles help to synthesize that information into a useful historical record. There's not as much information on Puerto Rican politics as there is for a number of states, and I don't pretend to begin to understand the island's politics nearly as well as I do pretty much any state's, so this article hasn't really taken off yet. Perhaps you or someone else could help. :) Qqqqqq (talk) 18:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
- There hasn't been any improvement, and while understand there is a rationale for it, I am suggesting it be userfied until which time it is a more complete article. At the current state it has no encyclopedic value that cannot be gathered from other articles, and it will be orphaned as a result. I think the information needs to be here, but this article doesn't work.--Cerejota (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- If the article is deleted and userfied, no one would ever find it or work on it. Qqqqqq (talk) 00:19, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- There hasn't been any improvement, and while understand there is a rationale for it, I am suggesting it be userfied until which time it is a more complete article. At the current state it has no encyclopedic value that cannot be gathered from other articles, and it will be orphaned as a result. I think the information needs to be here, but this article doesn't work.--Cerejota (talk) 23:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Future of this article?
editWhat else should this article cover? Unlike their counterparts for the Senate, the administration of the House has not yet responded to my e-mail inquiry of several days ago, so I'm not sure where else to go for information on that body. Pr4ever has pointed out a few errors in the Senate's official document, too; does anyone see any more errors there? Further, there are several parties or coalitions for which there exists no information on Wikipedia (and Spanish Wikipedia's coverage on PR's politics is but a fraction of English Wikipedia's); can anyone help fill in anything whatsoever on some of these redlinked parties? Further, some of the content of this article, such as success in having members elected to the legislature, should probably be added to the specific articles on these parties, but I didn't want to start that until I was sure that these figures were correct. Qqqqqq (talk) 02:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Can anyone shed some light on Alianza Puertorriqueña, Estadista, Estadista Puertorriqueño, (and how/whether these last two were different), Partido Histórico, Puerto Rican Union Party, and Unión Republicana-Progresista, for example? It seems like several of these groups are rather similar, although I can't seem to find much on them. Also, were Socialist and Socialista-Constitucional different, merely factions of the same group, or just different names? Qqqqqq (talk) 05:55, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- The Union Party, Alianza Puertorriquena, Estadista Puertorriquena, Partido Estado Republicano, Republican Union, Pure Republican, etc were all pro-statehood parties that came before the New Progressive Party was formed in 1967, most were relatively short lived but others like the Partido Estado Republicano had significant power. The Puerto Rican statehood movement has existed since 1898 but dident really begin to take off until the 1960s, and dident replace the PPD as the dominant party until the early/mid 2000s. 69.115.242.114 (talk) 19:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Mistakes in official source
editUser:65.23.235.203 and I were discussing an apparent discrepancy in the composition of the Senate from 1977 until 1981; it seems there is a mistake in the Senate's online document. The discussion is here. This means that we can't necessarily take that source as the final word; the rest of the figures should probably be referenced with another source. Qqqqqq (talk) 16:02, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
/R or /D ?
editThe table currently says "Ricky Rosselló (PNP/R)".
But Ricky's page says "Other political affiliations: Democratic". So shouldn't it be PNP/D? 75.163.196.16 (talk) 12:16, 2 July 2017 (UTC)