Talk:Politics of Crimea

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Est. 2021 in topic Scope

Orphaned references in Politics of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea

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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Politics of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "kyivpost.com":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 18:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

  DoneYulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:52, 28 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Republic of Russia or Autonomous Republic of Ukraine?

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Is this article about the republic within Ukraine or the republic within Russia? Its important from a civil rights perspective, as Ukrainians do not have fundamental rights that Russians do with respect to jury trials. I should note many Americans (and other English-speakers) consider it a fundamental right, while many Western European governments, well, don't. Its important to a practical understanding of the legal system, and its a very visible aspect that separates the judicial systems of the Soviet Union, Germany, France and Sweden (and most of the world) from the United States, Britain, Ireland and, oddly, Russia. (It also, again oddly, separates the German Empire and Weimar Republic from both Nazi Germany and modern Germany.) Int21h (talk) 18:58, 21 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

I've tried - please help me improve the article further

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I've tried to update and rewite this article to reflect the current reality of how Crimea is being administered as part of the Russian Federation but making clear throughout that Ukraine and most of the international community do not recognise the annexation. I've tried to do this in a neutral way but if you can help improve my attempt, great! Qaz1984 (talk) 21:03, 15 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Scope

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In 2009, this was created as an article about politics of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea,[1] and remained so as of February 2014[2] representing 23 years of important domestic politics.

At some point some editors seem to have eliminated the history and rewritten it to represent Domestic politics of Russian-occupied Crimea, without engaging in any discussion (despite two attempts above).

Unless there’s consensus to change the scope, let’s restore the deleted text and rewrite the lead to accurately describe it.  —Michael Z. 13:06, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Est. 2021: There is a discussion going on here. If you think, reverting to status quo is a good idea, you can do so, but you should not do that without taking part in the discussion and without taking the arguments of the other participants into account, see WP:BRD. Rsk6400 (talk) 17:36, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Rsk6400: Yes, I think so. Thanks for tagging me here, I will follow with interest. To be honest, just like the OP (Michael), I too think this page should not be Russo-centric, so after restoring the status quo version I also put the elections in chronological order (Ukraine first) and shortened the Russian section ([3]), but the last version of the page is completely unencyclopedic (poor wording and lack of neutrality), so I'm going to restore the previous version. Please, let's avoid useless content wars and let's keep this discussion encyclopedic. Feel free to propose improvements. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 17:52, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Mzajac: I completely agree with you here. This article either desperately needs a massive rewrite or for the more simple option it should be moved to Politics of the Republic of Crimea. This article has nothing to do with the "politics of Crimea": As a geographic region rich with its own political history, the "politics of Crimea" span the thousands of years the region has been under a multitude of political regimes. An article for Politics of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea should be split back out of this article instead of having this confusing "merge" where only Russian politics are represented.