Talk:Politics of East Timor

Latest comment: 5 years ago by JerzyA in topic Veto and override



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The current prime minister should be changed to Xanana Gusmao as of August 8. Kazuko 15:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Important notice

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The government section of the "Outline of East Timor" needs to be checked, corrected, and completed -- especially the subsections for the government branches.

When the country outlines were created, temporary data (that matched most of the countries but not all) was used to speed up the process. Those countries for which the temporary data does not match must be replaced with the correct information.

Please check that this country's outline is not in error.

If you have any questions or comments, please contact The Transhumanist .

Thank you.

out of date

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East Timorese parliamentary election, 2012 --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 13:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

Parliamentary republic?

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I don't see East Timor as having a parliamentary system, but instead a semi-presidential one. The President has significant powers. Plus, its constitution is based on the Portuguese one. B.Lameira (talk) 15:35, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Supporting my statement: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1644026 B.Lameira (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Cabinet

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The informations about the cabinets of East Timor are incomplete, sometimes the names are not correct written and Gusmao has resigned some days ago. The new prime minister Rui Araújo will be inaugurated in the next days. For details and sources in English, please check de:Kabinett Osttimors. Greetings from Germany, --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 06:50, 12 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Veto and override

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   In my edit summary, I foolishly fell into the habit of trying to fully explain why I had reverted article text, rather than pursuing that need, more effectively, here on the discussion page.
   Vetoing is an action that may be overridden. But in English, what was implied was that the legislation could be overridden; indeed, a veto is inherently an act that forbids, or cancels legislation, and its use otherwise is inherently confusing, so that it frustrates the purpose of communicating with people who learned something other than either British-Commomwealth English or North-American English (yes, those categories overlap) as their first, or for that matter, what is extremely common, learning (with varying degrees of thoroughness), the relatively small differences between the dialects, effectively making the other their second (and mostly passive -- i.e. listening/reading more often than speaking/writing -- dialect of English). But the English language convention for these English terms is that legislation is created and perhaps by the legislature, and (having thus been enacted) in some cases may be vetoed by the executive, but that, conversely, any such overriding is an act of the legislature. Any contrary usage in English is bound to be both confusing and confused, and my edit was an effort, as a native speaker, to clarify the plain fact that proposed legislation may be enacted or defeated, or simply abandoned, while enacted legislation may be signed, vetoed, or permitted to become law in the absence of presidential action.)    Now, I think I recall being around WP, when consideration was given to having separate Commonwealth (or British), and U.S./American (or North American) WP's. It was not, IIRC, laughed away, but I think was explitly ruled out, and that there would be little likelihood of its revival. Nevertheless, it would be a nearly entirely separate question, esp'ly here in a WP-aware world, to either seek WMFoundation support/assistance/endorsement for a Third-World-English WP, and/or a flock other WPs reflecting various proposed coalitions of more recently-post-colonial dialects of English or new putative English-inspired languages. Or maybe just use the free software. I think I'd be surprised if I found myself advocating for any of them, but the real world has surprised me before, so "never say 'never'".
--JerzyA (talk) 07:53, 20 August 2019 (UTC)Reply