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Changes to the lead
editSomeone evidently thought they were writing for a college paper and not an encyclopedia when they added the history of how the song got its name to the lead, so I've reworded it to sound more professional. Regarding the issue with Kraftwerk, apparently this is a very common misconception - I wonder if it shouldn't be acknowledged in the article that sources that indicate the band recorded the song are in error? 70.72.223.215 (talk) 16:50, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- There is an element of WP:OR here, but it is puzzling why Kraftwerk keeps on getting credited with the M & H Band version [1] when it is not known to be on one of their albums or singles.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 21:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Another thing that the article could consider mentioning is that the best known version by Hot Butter in 1972 is not a note for note transcription of the 1969 Gershon Kingsley version. It has some subtle but significant differences, and the arpeggio/organ with vibrato theme in the middle section of the Hot Butter version is not present on the Kingsley version at all. This may be Stan Free's own creation, as he was basically the driving force behind the 1972 track.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 21:39, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to note that between the lead and the background section, there are two different origins for the title. They seemingly conflict with one another, this may need to be verified. Centrisian (talk) 15:31, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
Title is "Pop Corn" -- two words
editLook at the photo of the single. 86.161.112.53 (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- This sleeve is misleading, it is usually spelled and listed as one word, eg here on the original Pye single.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 19:58, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
- It should still be acknowledged, so I added a note about this. Why isn't the original sleeve illustrated? 68.146.70.124 (talk) 00:30, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- No, it is not misleading. The original song is spelled ALWAYS with two words - look at any of the sleeves: https://www.discogs.com/Gershon-Kingsley-Music-To-Moog-By/master/137913 --Ondrejsv (talk) 20:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- What seems to have happened is that Hot Butter's 1972 version used the spelling Popcorn (all one word) and since then it has become the standard way of naming the song. The version on Music to Moog By used the spelling Pop Corn, but has run into problems with WP:COMMONNAME.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:10, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
"Crazy Frog version" is not notable
editThere are hundreds of covers of this song[1]. The article lists dozens of them[2]. Crazy Frog's cover is listed among them, but it does not merit an entire section. I'd like to remove it for lacking notability. 76.119.237.248 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:02, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- The sales and chart performance described in the article are enough to make it notable, almost certainly more notable than any other recording of the song aside from the other two recordings documented in the article. At least one other person has attempted to removes this section in the past, and their argument basically boiled down to that they didn't like that version of the song, which is not a valid reason for removing it. mwalimu59 (talk) 05:22, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
- Also, Crazy Frog was a major pop culture icon in the UK, and the album containing the version was released internationally as was the music video on DVD and broadcast. Cover versions should not be disqualified because a) someone doesn't care for it and b) it's not well known in an editor's particular region. If terms of popular awareness, both Hot Butter's and Crazy Frog's versions far outstrip the original recording by Kingsley. 68.146.70.124 (talk) 00:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Actually the crazy frog version is a remix of DJ Murphy Brown's version axel f 2003, with added crazy frog vocals and removed rap. go listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rAOZTWqkkY 74.211.60.216 (talk) 06:29, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
- Also, Crazy Frog was a major pop culture icon in the UK, and the album containing the version was released internationally as was the music video on DVD and broadcast. Cover versions should not be disqualified because a) someone doesn't care for it and b) it's not well known in an editor's particular region. If terms of popular awareness, both Hot Butter's and Crazy Frog's versions far outstrip the original recording by Kingsley. 68.146.70.124 (talk) 00:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
request
editis it possible to do a summary of the video for the Crazy Frog version of the song? Visokor (talk) 06:27, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Barthezz
editBarthezz track "On the move", featuring very similar melody and sound to this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.144.102.201 (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Videos
editCan anyone confirm if this is the real music video for Gershon Kingsley's version? I'm skeptical that RKO and Paramount Pictures funded for the music video. Link is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSRCemf2JHc
Additionally, there is a French video that shows six people dancing to the Hot Butter rendition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfdLh0MHqKw ElMeroEse (talk) 06:44, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
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Popcorn Makers version
editWhat about the Pop corn Makers "version"? If I ain't wrong, this was a band including G. Kingsley himself..! This would make it worth mentioning, isn't it? Oxygene7-13 (talk) 11:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- This version is interesting because it sounds very similar to the Hot Butter version but it is not quite identical. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any online sourcing saying who made it and when.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- If G. Kingsley is in that band, it is (to me) more than obvious that it belongs in the article if not the main subject... I have the 7" single myself and, if I ain't wrong, this was the single that was to be found in the charts! Oxygene7-13 (talk) 14:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- There are two versions of The Popcorn Makers track on YouTube, but I won't link to them per WP:YOUTUBE. They are undoubtedly weird, because they sound very much like the 1972 Hot Butter version but they are not identical. The lead has more reverberation on it and the final note is definitely not the same. There are other subtle differences but I won't list them all here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:02, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Not all but a version played by the composer should deserve a place, I guess... Oxygene7-13 (talk) 15:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- Someone edited the article and hid the parts from Crazy Frog onwards, incl. the cover versions sector on which The Popcorn Makers version should have been included. Also mentionable is that the Dutch Veronica Top 40 charts entry added the sales of 3 versions: Hot Butter's, Popcorn Makers (the best selling one) and Anarchic System altogether. The Daverende Dertig, the competiting national charts didn't add the sales, and all three versions entered the charts. 62.145.203.131 (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not all but a version played by the composer should deserve a place, I guess... Oxygene7-13 (talk) 15:22, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- There are two versions of The Popcorn Makers track on YouTube, but I won't link to them per WP:YOUTUBE. They are undoubtedly weird, because they sound very much like the 1972 Hot Butter version but they are not identical. The lead has more reverberation on it and the final note is definitely not the same. There are other subtle differences but I won't list them all here.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:02, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- If G. Kingsley is in that band, it is (to me) more than obvious that it belongs in the article if not the main subject... I have the 7" single myself and, if I ain't wrong, this was the single that was to be found in the charts! Oxygene7-13 (talk) 14:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
add muppets version
editis it possible to note the muppets version on this song? 2600:1700:BA02:9540:2846:FE2B:154D:6BFC (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- The Muppets version "Pöpcørn" from 2010 with the Swedish Chef is one of the more famous cover versions. The purists will ask for a source discussing it to meet WP:SONGCOVER. I had difficulty finding one that would be suitable. This source mentions it, but it also says that there is a version by Jean-Michel Jarre which is a myth. This is the The M & H Band version, which is misattributed to Jarre and Kraftwerk in numerous places on the web.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:43, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Johnny brave
editJohnny brave's remix is clearly worth including in popcorn versions list. 130.164.177.215 (talk) 20:38, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
Clarification of whether the original Moog version was a hit
editAt present the lead to the article states: "The Moog synthesizer original version became a worldwide hit in 1972, when it was covered by Hot Butter, an American pop band." This seems to require clarification/correction - I would assume that the original version from the Moog album was NOT a hit, whereas the Hot Butter cover version clearly was. Perhaps someone who knows can clarify whether the Moog (album-only??) version got much play. JA 1961 (talk) 10:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- The current wording is unclear and a bit misleading. Kingsley's 1969 version on the album "Music to Moog By" achieved some degree of success but it was not a major hit. It was Hot Butter's 1972 version that made the charts in multiple countries.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:21, 24 May 2024 (UTC)