Talk:Population transfer in the Soviet Union

Latest comment: 8 months ago by MediaWiki message delivery in topic Crimes against humanity category removal

Japanese in the USSR pre-1945?

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I forgot to address this issue when my reversion was in turn reverted by Altenmann a few weeks ago, but one of the statistics cited in this article seems dubious. Many ethnic Japanese who had been living or were deployed militarily in Manchukuo, Chōsen, and the former Karafuto Prefecture and Chishima Islands ended up being detained by the USSR as POWs in 1945; some of whom never returned to Japan. However, it seems to me very unlikely that over 70,000 were living in the Soviet Far East before 1939. The size of this community would have been comparable to those established in the Americas during this same period.

Historically, there had been significant Korean populations in what became the Soviet Far East. Many Koreans also fled into the USSR after Japan annexed the Korean Peninsula. Having been born in a region then internationally recognized as an integral part of Japan, it is possible that these Koreans may have been referred to by the Soviets as "Japanese" on account of their citizenship status.

I'm unaware of any mentions of a mass Japanese migration to the USSR before 1939 as a documented phenomenon; nothing comes to my mind in Japanese or English. Are there sources in Russian that one may find on this subject? Thanks! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:29, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I reverted you. The anon IP added Kola Norvegians and it was correct. I didnt notice the second addition: Japanese, which is obviously false: the authority in soviet population transfers, Pavel Polian writes that at that time in Russian Far East were at most 1,000 Japanese. Re: may have been referred to by the Soviets as "Japanese" on account of their citizenship status --regarding them, Polian writes that Japanese and Koreans with Japanese citizenship were deported to Japan. Not to say that this was in 1937, not 1939. - Altenmann >talk 03:12, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply
P.S. This IP's number of Norwegians was also wrong: there were about 1,000 Kola Norwegians. I Found some sources about what had happened there in 1940 and fixed the table. - Altenmann >talk 03:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Crimes against humanity category removal

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Crimes against humanity is a specific legal concept. In order to be included in the category, the event (s) must have been prosecuted as a crime against humanity, or at a bare minimum be described as such by most reliable sources. Most of the articles that were formerly in this category did not mention crimes against humanity at all, and the inclusion of the category was purely original research. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply