Talk:Porsche Boxster

Super Replica Link from their web site(s)

Consumer Alert: There is a Panamanian "kit car company" company that uses You Tube extensively as a source of promotion to solicit and defraud consumers. They have now started using Wikipedia as a second platform by which to claim legitimacy. The wiki entries that they have created on themselves have thus far been removed, but they are now linking into legitimate articles, and this Porsche Boxster is one of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.244.183.6 (talk) 16:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Engine - horsepower

Not really important but since my editing of the engine power was reverted I had to check other sources. It seems to me that the numbers in the US is different from the numbers in Europe? In Europe the first models of the 2.5l had 204 bhp, the 2.7l 220 bhp, and the 3.2 S 252 bhp I have the 2000 Boxster S myself and it says 252 bhp in the manual. Of course, the differences are so small that they are unimportant, but still found it a bit strange.

Europeans rate horsepower using DIN standards (Deutsche Industrie Norm, I believe it means). U. S. makers rate horsepower using SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) criteria, and the two differ slightly. When a Eurpean car is sold in the U. S., its horsepower rating is converted to an SAE, via a simple conversion factor. DIN hp is always a bit higher than SAE hp, so if that weren't donethe Europoean makers would have minutely better bragging rights.

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Stephan Wilkinson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.238.96.49 (talk) 19:31, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm ... A more likely suspect might be differences in emissions equipment, which most definitely has an effect on performance and horsepower. I've seen this horsepower discrepancy before between European and US versions of the same car, and it was due to the catalytic converter. Usually the US model comes out on the short end, losing a few horsepower. BMW's 3 series specifically comes to mind. --68.183.100.3 (talk) 06:49, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Links

I don't know what the standards are for external links, but there seem to be a few links that aren’t exceptionally useful. If someone could chip in a second opinion on these it would be very helpful (after a quick glance at the pages, I don’t see any great reason to keep them – and the last one should probably have the “very helpful” comment removed?):

• 986 and 987 Forum boards
• Porsche Pete's Boxster Board
• Used Boxster Buyer's Tips from a Boxster Owner - Very Helpful!

Nick

Mid-engine

"The Boxster has a mid-mounted engine"? Has it? I thought it was tail mounted. // Liftarn

Yes, the engine is mid-mounted. It's the Porsche 911's engine that is rear-mounted. SamH|Talk 10:29, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Anywhere handling, braking and balance cannot be compromised the mid-engined design will be used. In most automobiles, and in sports cars especially, ideal car handling requires balanced traction between the front and rear wheels when cornering in order to maximize the possible speed around curves without sliding out.

• The mid-engine layout as used on the first Porsche, the James Dean Porsche 550 the neat little Porsche 914, the current Boxster's, and Cayman's, make these cars more like racing cars than the big front-engined 924, 944, 928, Cayenne, and Panamera, or the soon to be extinct from all but vintage car racing, the rear-engined 911.

-oo0(GoldTrader)0oo- (talk) 19:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

And it is very low too!-Ez5698

Porsche Boxster

What year did the Boxster switch from a "plastic" rear window to a glass one?

The glass top comes on the '03 and up models.

I think it should also be mentioned that the Boxster competes directly with the Audi TT, Saab 9-3, 350z, and the honda s2000.

What is the average RWHP of a 2000 boxsterS ? Because the Brake horsepower or Bhp is higher than the actual RWHP.

The engine is in the middle of the car (mid engined) and all i know is that the 3.4 litre flat 6 in the modern boxter s develops 295 BHP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.197.27 (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

video game

I remember that when the boxster was released there was a playstation racing game, presumably made for marketing puirposes, where the boxster was the only car you could drive. I think perhaps it should be mentioned here, but I can't remember the name of that game. 85.28.65.75 15:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

It was Porsche Challenge. According to Moby Games, "The game was developed in collaboration with Porsche. As a result of this collaboration the game features only Porsche Boxsters as cars and focuses more on realistic look and feel of these Boxsters than on fast and furious action and spectacular crashes." --Edvvc 22:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Zscout370's deletion of the majority of the links

Zscout370, why did you delete the majority of the external links? They most assuredly weren't spam -- two were from Porsche's own website! I understand that some of them may technically have violated some oft-ignored linking rules (for example, external forum links are ostensibly forbidden, although many car articles have them), but but Boxster FAQ if nothing else is beyond reproach. Please don't just delete the links again without commenting here first. Stephen Hui 05:39, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Everything from the official website of Porche to the the FAQ, I would not mind keeping. However, it was brought to our attention offline that many of the Porche articles are getting spammed with links to the autowiki and by fourms. I am going to remove the forum links again. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Engine output figures

The European and American engine output figures apparently differed. I reverted the last edit because it changed one model year's listed figure from the American one to the European one. We should probably list both for all model years, but we shouldn't mix them between model years, especially without having an appropriate notation. For example, before my edit the 1997 car's output was listed at the American car's 201 hp, while the 2000 car's output was listed at the European car's 204 hp, making it sound like the 2000 was essentially no more powerful than the 1997. Stephen Hui 21:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

"Boxster's discs rust unusually quickly"

I'm deleting this assertion because I can't find any data to justify its inclusion per WP:Verifiability. The two sources the original posted added were both columns written by individuals describing their own cars; while they may have had problems, that doesn't mean it's a common issue. Automobile didn't have the problem in their long-term test, nor did MotorWeek or European Car. Popular Mechanics did an owner's survey, and rusty brakes didn't get mentioned. Neither Consumer Guide nor MSN Autos mention brakes as a problem area in their reliability surveys. So why exactly does this merit inclusion in an encyclopedia?

From the linked Wikipedia policy page:

Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, has said of this: "I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced.

Stephen Hui 14:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Shares everything forward of the windshield with the 996

Is it worth noting that the Boxster shares the same front of the car with the 996 Carrera, in terms of suspension, steering, etc. and body / headlights (at least up until the 996 got the Turbo's headlights to differentiate it from the Boxster)? Geoff126 19:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a source? The 996 grill looks different than Boxster's... swaq 17:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

This is widely recognized in the Porsche community; you probably have your choice of sources. For example, Bruce Anderson writes in "Porsche Market Update: Boxster & 996" (Excellence #167, September 2008, pp. 115-119), "From the doors forward, they [Boxster and 911] are nearly the same car, using the same forward chassis (Carrera 4 and Turbo excepted), suspension, fenders, hood, headlights, and much more." Slaquer (talk) 04:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

At the time Porsche really didn't have much choice. The 1993 concept was quite a bit smaller than the production car and frankly, it was well-known at the time that Porsche's finances during that era couldn't allow for that much difference in development, particularly with the virtually all-new Type 996 911 about to be released. It made sound business sense to share as much development between the two platforms as possible, particularly in areas of crashworthiness and engine development; besides, this sort of shared commonality is something that all automobile companies do as common practice. And Porsche throughout its own history has done this to some level across model lines and with separate generations within a particular model. According to the noted Porsche authority, the late Paul Frère, in his book, "Porsche 911 Story" (7th edition), Porsche "had to share most of its most important components with the new 911". It's a classic Wendelin Wiedeking move, Porsche's managing director during the Boxster's birth and development.Monoblocks (talk) 18:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Design credit and where it's due

It was my understanding that then Porsche design chief Harm Lagaay was the instigator/motivator for the original Boxster concept, but that the design itself was actually penned by Grant Larson. Monoblocks (talk) 18:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Manual listed twice for 0-60, tiptronic missing

In the Model History box, in the year 2000, for the base model, manual is listed twice and tiptronic not at all. I know the tip is a bit slower 0-60, but I just wanted to toss it out there to someone with the actual figures so they could verify the accuracy for both. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.100.3 (talk) 06:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

IMS failure rate figures

Hopefully someone can source the section about the IMS failure rate being 5% ... I've researched the subject extensively and have never seen any verifiable figures. In fact, from all I've learned, Porsche keeps that number very quietly to itself. I'd love to know what the actual rate it. But to tease out an actual number, versus mere speculation, has proven beyond my research abilities.

--68.183.100.3 (talk) 07:06, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Porsche 981 Article Expansion

As of right now the information about the 981 seems limited. Perhaps we can do more work to expand it? I will start by adding the top speed, 0-60 mph time, and possibly some other information. HEROofOURtime (talk) 01:28, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

1. REDIRECT Talk:Porsche 718 (production car)