Talk:Port Chester High School

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Meters in topic Retired school colour

Attendance

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We are currently citing the most recent NCES attendance data, which is 2017–2018. NCES is the standard attendance ref for US high schools. Don't change the attendance without a reliable source, and certainly don't change it to something that contradicts the cited source. Meters (talk) 21:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Another attempt pointed to a non-NCES source, but was undone since it still claimed to be published by the NCES and it did not support some of the other data that was cited to the ref. Note that the attendance claimed is now different than the many recent unsourced attempts to change it, so obviously the user was not making a change based on the ref. And now the user is being undone (not by me) because he or she is back to changing the data but not the ref. I'm not going to update the attendance with a properly formatted new ref sinc eI think the NCES data is actually preferable.
I've raised the question of whether we should use the latest NCES data even if more recent data is available on the schools project Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Schools/Article_guidelines#Attendance_references_for_US_schools Meters (talk) 22:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
I've changed it again and also removed a bunch of unneeded parameters. And i requested protection. John from Idegon (talk) 22:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
And this issue is back... IPs are continuing to add unsourced attendance data that contradicts the NCES source (now 2018–19), and claiming that it is for 2020–21. Meters (talk) 04:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Forgot to say that consensus at the schools' project was to stick with NCES. Meters (talk) 04:28, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
And that the same IPs are doing the same thing at Westlake High School (New York) Meters (talk) 04:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Athletic claims

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I have been unable to verify these unsourced athletic claims. I don't know what the WIAC is with reference to New York high school athletics, and the New York State Public High School Athletic Association does not mention the supposed titles. The NYSPHSAA has been in existence since 1923. We only list the highest possible finishes (usually state championships) and it appears that entries listed are not state titles, even if they were sourced.

Unless someone can explain what's going on, show that these are state titles, and provide reliable sources I will remove everything. Meters (talk) 05:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Since apparently you have no idea about high school sports, all state athletic associations divide the states into regions or sections or conferences/leagues. NYS prior to NYSPHSAA 1923 have county leagues, obviously WIAC= westchester interscholastic athletic conference for a couple of years before section one was implemented. Also the championship is listed as just league champions — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:b81e:7a26:d4e7:30b6:7fc6:ca93 (talkcontribs) 00:19, January 5, 2021 (UTC)

  1. Plerase sign and indent your talk page posts.
  2. You are evading a block.
  3. It is certainly not obvious what "WIAC" means. I attempted to look it up and was unable to do so. It is a violation of MOS to use unexplained initialisms.
  4. The WIAC mentions span more than 50 years. That is not "a couple of years".
  5. "NYS prior to NYSPHSAA 1923 have county leagues" So? There's nothing here about anything prior to 1923. The school wasn't even around then.
  6. Since the listed championships are just league championships, they should not be included. As I've pointed out, we only list top level (state) finishes. I will remove them. Meters (talk) 00:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

It certainly does, everyone in the state knows that schools started playing in the county leagues before transitioning into sections with NYSPHAA and each sport entered at a different times.

The high school was around before then. This high school is the 3 to be built, the first was built in 1898

Obviously NYSPHAA would not have anything on WIAC since it was disbanded. It was a local county league that would have archived the records — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:b81e:7a26:d4e7:30b6:7fc6:ca93 (talkcontribs) 00:42, January 5, 2021 (UTC)

Retired school colour

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Does anyone want to make an argument for why we should include an unsourced claim in the infobox about what the school colours used to be 50 years ago [1]? Meters (talk) 05:30, 30 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Because that was the original colors before the second high school “blind brook” opened in town. Port Chester had to drop the “Red” color which blind brook took over. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B81E:7A26:D4E7:30B6:7FC6:CA93 (talk) 00:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

  1. Again, please sign and indent your talk page posts.
  2. There is nothing in this article about any such history. There is no consensus here to include this unsourced information in the info box. Meters (talk) 00:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

Obviously it’s missing. You are not from here.

  1. We can keep doing this over and over again. Hope Wikipedia is paying you well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:B81E:7A26:D4E7:30B6:7FC6:CA93 (talk) 00:47, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
I'm happy to hear from anyone else who wants to contribute to the discussion. When the IP comes back from his range block he can continue the discussion. It probably would not be a good idea for him to continue to restore the unsourced and contested edits before we reach consensus though. Meters (talk) 01:22, 5 January 2021 (UTC)Reply