Talk:Postcodes in Australia

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Changed an address to Citizen Rd as the original was a real residential address.

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Would the table I did a few months back at States and territories of Australia (with postcodes, area codes, etc) be better suited here? Or linked from here? Or merged with this page, or something like that?

Perhaps all this would be better suited at Communications in Australia? (to follow the naming format of the CIA World Factbook, that many country pages on Wikipedia are developed from) --Chuq 04:33, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

I also notice that additional postcode list articles Postcodes: Victoria, Postcodes: Tasmania, etc. Have been made - not even capitalised, wikified, etc. Some sort of standardisation of this articles would be good. --Chuq 03:22, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Geez Chuq, that's a curly one. dunno how I missed the chat at the post codes page! never knew about the 9nnn post codes. If in doubt it sounds like you're better off with the CIA than at odds with them... a page on Communications in Australia sounds reasonable. more power to your elbow! Erich 10:14, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think it has a place anywhere in Wikipedia. No offence to its author, nor to Australians - hey, I live in 2350 myself! The thing is, WP is not a directory. If I need to look up this sort of info, my first thought isn't going to be to crank up the old laptop and come to wikipedia, its going to be to fetch the phone book, or call the post office, or maybe look it up online on a more appropriate site. The reason is that if everything that belongs in a directory somewhere ends up on wikipedia, it will swamp the rest of the content by a huge factor. I think this silliness should stop now and some sort of official policy should be evolved that dissuades entries of a directory-like nature. Or at least some sort of debate should be had. Graham 12:33, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

The Postcodes: Victoria, Postcodes: New South Wales, etc. pages ought to be deleted. All of those postcodes are available at List of localities (Victoria) etc. in a much better format, and are given as additional information after the place links, rather than being the focus, which they don't need to be. The List of Australian post codes page also is useless given that everything on it is posted at States and territories of Australia in a much cleaner and less verbose format. As all the information already exists, I say get rid of them. The List of localities pages serve the useful pupose of linking to places around the country, however I agree that there doesn't need to be anything more than that which would turn WP into a directory. Hypernovean 13:03, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

I think you miss the point. These are not simply lists of post codes. They are indexes and category schemes to relate items by location. Categorising information is part of what encyclopedias do and that's why there are links to articles about places in there. And presumably will be links from objects to locations so you can find other objects in a given location at some point - everything in post code A linking to post code A somehow, perhaps via the category shceme. Jamesday 01:25, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

The only index and category scheme I see regarding Australian post codes, is that each state has its own separate page. The pages themselves have obviously just been copied from somewhere else, and are not arranged in any obvious order apart from alphabetically. If they were sorted by region, or city, category (are they an overnight express post region, etc) then they would be offering something that wasn't available elsewhere, but at the moment they aren't even linked/wiki'ed, and are in all caps. --Chuq 02:57, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

I know I'm kind of reviving an old debate here, but I agree. If I was to go to the WA page, even though I've lived in this state all my life and have a very very good understanding of local geography, I've never even heard of many of the locations, and even checking the WA Government's official road atlas fails to turn up around 1/3 of them. If they were grouped by area - eg to use a NSW example have headings like Suburbs of Wollongong, Suburbs of Newcastle, Towns in the New England Region etc with anything likely to have its own article at some point listed and everything else pointed to Auspost, this would be far more useful. Fact is the list is not in any way useful in its present form, it's just a mass of names, many looking very similar to each other. I think this debate started in a very different environment as US, Canada, UK etc charge access to database for their much more complicated (often street-based) postcode schemas. Orderinchaos78 00:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

What does this page need?

If anyone has anything needed on this page to expand it to a proper article, it can be listed here:

• A section on postoffice boxes, which now have different postcodes in some places (eg. in NSW many of them are "1xxx" instead of the normal "2xxx".
• The geographic coverage of different postcodes - this is best with a list showing the number of suburbs covered by different areas, but no one wants that. JRG 07:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
• The physical location of post office boxes, at any rate in central business districts. It may well be useful for others, as this issue has just come up for me. I am currently trying to find the precise street address of the post boxes in Bourke Street, Melbourne, so my (British) passport renewal can go through; in their infinite wisdom, the British passport authorities have "improved" the process so it no longer goes through Canberra but the passports are produced in Britain and the paperwork and forwarding are handled in New Zealand. I need the precise street address of the post boxes because Australia Post's opposite numbers in the New Zealand postal service have set up an automated system that refuses to allow the British passport authorities in New Zealand to send a passport to an address that is not a precise street address, even when it is a post box (and, of course, this increases the risk that it will not be processed properly by Australia Post's own automated system, say by sending it to the central business district postal shop, which is in different premises). Australia Post does not supply this information, not even on its own website! Unless I can find out very soon, processing my passport application will be delayed until after I can next get to my post box and see for myself. PMLawrence (talk) 07:25, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi - unfortunately this would contravene Wikipedia's original research rules as we'd have to research that ourselves, and as it would keep changing on a regular and unpredictable basis it would rapidly fall out of date even if someone was to attempt the task. The only one I could find myself was the post office at 111 Bourke - if it's different to this, I honestly don't know how one would find out. Good luck anyways (something I'll need to know for when mine needs renewal :/ ) Orderinchaos 13:08, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

See Also section

We shouldn't pre-empt a AfD debate. JRG 00:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

External links

I've just removed the following links from the external links section:

• Australia Post
• Postcode Finder
• Australia Postcodes Search with Google Map
• Australian Postal Code Database
• Australian Postcode Search Tool
• Australian Postcode Lookup Tool
• Australian Post Code Lookup with Geographic Information
• AussiePostCodes Search
• Australian Postcode Boundary Map (Google API Based)
• Search Australian Postcodes, Cities and Suburbs with Map
• Australian Postcode lookup for your PC

One link remains:

• Australia Post: Postcode Search

The rest looked pretty spammy. If I have removed any useful ones please re-add (and leave a note here so it doesn't disappear in the next cleanout!) -- Chuq (talk) 11:26, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Usefull links

I use these two links daily:

• Australian Postcode Boundary Map (Google API Based)
• Search Australian Postcodes, Cities and Suburbs with Map

It is very difficult to find postcode areas in Australia. So these two can really help. --Sander Snel (talk) 13:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

External links

I've just added back the following link to the external links section:

• Australian Postcode lookup for your PC

This is an extremely useful program that I wrote which allows you to sort/search/filter postcodes.JacqueM (talk) 09:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

On the one hand, your addition of this link to the article contravenes Wikipedia policy. Refer to WP:LINKSPAM, which says: "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam." The webpage you cite also contravenes Australia Post's copyright policy (unauthorised use of the "red horn" logo), and requires a cumbersome method (right-click then save then open) to download the program on the website.

On the other hand, I would rather let other people voice their opinion on this matter before a decision is made whether to remove your link or not. --TripleThree (talk) 14:29, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I can easily remove the "red horn" logo from the website.

Is it possible to have the program available for download from Wikipedia itself, rather than from my website ?JacqueM (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia is not a web hosting service. See WP:NOTWEBHOST. Anyway, Australia Post provides a perfectly good postcode search engine at [1]. You can also download the official Australia Post database at [2] that is only about 4% the size of your program. --TripleThree (talk) 13:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

AEC LVR Postcode

The Australian Electoral Commission actually has a Large Volume Receiver postcode (9867) still in use for signed forms. See http://www.aec.gov.au/enrol/send-form.htm

Given "Australian National University's postcode 0200 was the last LVR to be closed in September 2014" is probably wrong, whatever statement goes in its place needs a citation.DpEpsilon (talk) 04:58, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

I have removed this claim as I am unable to find anything at all supporting that there are no more LVRs. The statement about ANU's postcode is otherwise not notable. If it becomes relevant, here is the only information I could find regarding the statement: http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/mail-changes-to-the-anu-campus DpEpsilon (talk) 05:52, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Allocation of post codes vs geographical location - no longer true?

Within the section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postcodes_in_Australia#Australian_states_and_territories there is a sub-section headed with the text "Sometimes near the state and territory borders, Australia Post finds it easier to send mail through a nearby post office that is across the border:" which is then followed by a table.

Spot checking several of these shows the information is no longer true. I first noticed this when searching google maps and google provided different post codes .. and checking with https://auspost.com.au/postcode shows the same.

For example, Paringi is noted as having the post code of 3500, suggesting QLD but is actually NSW ... but according to auspost the postcode is now 2738 https://auspost.com.au/postcode/paringi/nsw/chdi

210.10.218.98 (talk) 11:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

It certainly seems some of the traditional border-hopping postcodes aren't there any more. But it seems there are still some. I found this this list from 2016 and a couple of random picks like this one show we do show we still have postcodes crossing state boundaries. But feel free to remove the examples which are no longer true and replace them with new ones. Kerry (talk) 05:10, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Postcode squares discontinued

As at August 2024 most if not all postcode boxes have been discontinued. ----¬¬¬¬ MountVic127 (talk) 10:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)