Talk:Potato bread

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Potato Bread consists of: 2 level cups of freshly mashed potatoes 2 Tbsp butter 1/4 cup flour salt and pepper

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Is that really potato bread? I grew up in Northern Ireland and have travelled quite extensively around the country. Never have I seen potato bread that looked like that, nor have I known it been made with leavened flour. That looks like a wheaten loaf to me which is something completely different. I suggest that unless someone know better and some provenance can be provided for this photograph, then it should be removed from the article. The potato bread I've always been used to looks like the tatty scone in the other article. I admit that this may be due to Scottish influence in the area in which I grew up and maybe other parts of Ireland have different types of potato bread that I haven't encountered which is why I haven't removed the picture from the article just yet. Similarly there is a claim made in the article that potato bread is mainly served on special occasions- again this is at odds with my experience. We used to eat it with every fry which was usually about twice a week, besides which every guest house in the country serves it more or less on a daily basis.IrishPete (talk) 13:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I have looked at the picture in more detail and it appears to have been taken by someone who made this loaf themselves. Fair enough it does contain potatoes but it is not representative of the traditional Irish potato bread that the article seems to be about. Again the tone of the article is misleading. It starts with a general description of what may constitute potato bread, then launches into a description of and recipe for Irish potato bread- which it previously describes as a variant. Since the categories linked to include Irish cuisine, Irish breads and Unleavened breads I suggest that this article should be about Irish potato bread, with an appropriate photograph rather than the one currently used. IrishPete (talk) 13:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. What's sold as a "potato farl" around these parts -- including in the supermarkets, which presumably sell the same thing nationwide -- is essentially the same thing as a "tattie scone", perhaps slightly thicker to judge by some samples. (And not necessarily "farl"-shaped, but that's another matter.) Is it really even necessary to have two separate articles? Or would proposing a merge immediately cause a minor linguistic war? Alai (talk) 03:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

The photo is mine. It's important to remember that "potato bread" is not an exclusively Irish concept, but rather it is any bread that contains potatoes. The receipe I used for the bread in that photograph was taken from a German cookbook. It is most certainly a type of potato bread (potato bread is very common in Germany, but it's not much like the Irish variety), but if anyone else has a photograph that is of higher quality or more representative of potato breads, feel free to add it. If I remember correctly, I took the photo and added it because the article lacked one completely. However, I have not worked on the text of the article at all, and it certainly does need to be altered to better represent the broad concept of potato bread and not simply one regional interpretation thereof. DJLayton4 (talk) 04:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

It certainly seems odd to have one-and-a-half articles on potato farls/scones, and bits of an article on other forms of bread-with-potato-in grafted on to on of the two. Better to have one on each, with their scopes more clearly delineated than at present. Alai (talk) 03:15, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, it is a bit odd at least, Pete, to have any Irish varieties without having your standard potato bread. Anyone know where there is a recipe for it? ~ R.T.G 15:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

When I saw the picture, I wondered what the eggs and sausage etc were there for. A picture of the bread alone would be fine. I see bread in the supermarket called potato bread on the wrapper. Is that not potato bread?Longinus876 (talk) 12:20, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Problems w/article including Ireland focus

It has been discussed above, but I just want to note that this article has a nearly singular focus on Ireland and the types of potato bread found there. The article should be re-written to be neutral in country of origin except in noting where potato bread was invented, etc... I can find references to potato bread in dozens of cultures, ranging from the Cherokee, to European nations like Germany, Poland, Ireland, to modern mass-production of breads containing some potato in countries like the United States. Jo7hs2 (talk) 20:23, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

If you have information on potato bread in other cultures and countries then by all means add them. The people who wrote the article wrote from what they know and are exposed to, if there is more information then add it. Canterbury Tail talk 20:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I have rewritten the article in an attempt to repair a number of problems that have been discussed in this thread, or which were added in complaints directly in the article. This included changes to the discription of potato bread to make it as culturally neutral as possible, adding sections for individual countries' specific variations, etc... The major fault that persists is a lack of verifiable sources. I removed the recipe as was requested, as it was moved to wikibooks, and was not encyclopedic content. Jo7hs2 (talk) 20:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I cannot find any evidence that potato bread was invented anywhere, period. I'm having a large amount of difficulty finding any sources for this article. Most of what I was able to find was by reading several dozen recipes and websites about making potato bread, but anything other than what it is made out of is hard to verify. Jo7hs2 (talk) 21:29, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Fadge?...

I've just looked this up with surprise after hearing the word on Brain of Britain. Here in Wales 'fadge' is a nickname for the vagina. Is that worth mentioning in the main article. It's certainly the truth...Martyn Smith (talk) 14:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't see how it's of any encyclopaedic relevance. Words mean one thing somewhere, and another somewhere else all the time. Canterbury Tail talk 16:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)