Talk:President of Bolivia
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edit"Non renewable?"
editWhat does "non renewable" mean? Does it mean that the president can't have two consecutive terms, or that he can't have two terms period? I doubt it's the latter as some on this list are listed twice, but it is ambiguous. —OverMyHead 20:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
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Colors
editWhat's the meaning of the different background colors in the table? They're very conspicuous but there's no explanation of them whatever. It may be obvious to Bolivians, but this is the English Wikipedia, not the Spanish one (or Quechua, Aymara, Guaraní, or other indigenous language of Bolivia). --Thnidu (talk) 02:28, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- Agree - these background colours first appeared with an edit at "10:24, 25 October 2010", but NO EXPLANATION. Weird. I plan to drop the colours in a few weeks if no one is prepared to explain them, some 5 years after they were inserted, and 2 months after Thnidu raised this item. Jmg38 (talk) 23:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't add the color to the list, but the green corresponds to acting, interim or provisional presidents who were not made simply "president." I'm not sure what makes Santa Cruz different.--Carwil (talk) 02:37, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Carwil and Jmg38: Ah yes, thanks, Carwil. Here's the algorithm I see:
- IF person held a higher title than President
- THEN #ff9900 (equivalent to bgcolor=#f90) # deep orange; this applies only to Santa Cruz, "Supreme Protector of the Peru–Bolivian Confederation" (which is larger than Bolivia)
- ELSIF person held title of President (unmodified) or Liberator of Bolivia
- THEN #ffffcc # beige
- ELSE
- #ccffcc # light green
- So now that we see that the colors aren't arbitrary after all, we could keep them and add an explanation... not the geeky one I just used, though. How say you? --Thnidu (talk) 03:13, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Carwil and Jmg38: Ah yes, thanks, Carwil. Here's the algorithm I see:
- I didn't add the color to the list, but the green corresponds to acting, interim or provisional presidents who were not made simply "president." I'm not sure what makes Santa Cruz different.--Carwil (talk) 02:37, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Looks like you've cracked this one open!! Thanks for your upcoming edit (hint hint). Jmg38 (talk) 16:26, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Line of succession
editThis is the operative article of the Bolivian constitution of 2009:
Article 169 I. In the event of an impediment or definitive absence of the President, he or she shall be replaced by the Vice President and, in the absence of the latter, by the President of the Senate, and in his or her absence by the President of the Chamber of Deputies. In this last case, new elections shall be called within a maximum period of ninety days. II. In case of temporary absence, the Vice President shall assume the Presidency for a term not to exceed ninety days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdm1991 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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How many terms?
editIf it is the case that Bolivian federal law allows a president to be elected twice, how is it that Evo Morales was elected four times in succession? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 23:30, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- here is not a forum but for your knowledge this is well explained in the following page : Evo Morales 92.154.41.65 (talk) 14:42, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Poor Sourcing/Whitewash?
edit"The protests increased after Eduardo Villegas, a software engineer, detected the irregularities between the fast counting system of votes (TREP) and the results published several days after by the Tribunal Supremo Electoral. Irregularities such as fake signatures, ID's of dead people used to vote, and significant drops of Carlos Mesa (Evo's main rival) when comparing the TREP and the later results were revealed. In response, shock groups that supported Evo went to the streets and vandalized houses of people who denounced irregularities in the elections. One of the houses that were burned belonged to Waldo Albarracin, president of the Universidad Mayor de San Andres, who denounced Evo's government irregularities for years. After more than two weeks of intense protests and repression, the police determined that they would not repress protestors anymore." Where is the source for any of that?
"A few days later, General Williams Kaliman suggested Evo to resign the presidency to pacify the country." """suggested""" How is there no mention of General Williams Connection to the notorious "School of the Americas"? Wouldn't that be a rather important detail especially as it relates to all 3 MAS elected officials in the line of succession resigning such that 4th in line from a totally different party took control? https://thegrayzone.com/2019/11/13/bolivian-coup-plotters-school-of-the-americas-fbi-police-programs/ http://accuracy.org/release/top-bolivian-coup-plotters-were-school-of-the-americas-grads/
146.115.5.244 (talk) 04:10, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
Multiple issues
editThe content of this page has multiple issues that need fixed. These include:
- Unclear focus as to the purpose of the page. I would propose this should be on the general role of President of Bolivia (that seems obvious to me) and not mostly about who the current president or politics of the day are. Those should be dealt with on the relevant pages for those presidents and pages on Bolivian politics such as those for the general election results and 2019 Bolivian political crisis
- Proper sourcing of factual information. There are statements in the background material and elsewhere that are unsourced, such as the claim of "over 190 coups" occurring over the history of the Presidency.
- Inclusion and translation of a lot of material that can be used from the Spanish language page on the same subject, es:Presidente de Bolivia
- Organising information into coherent sections, as in the Spanish language article of the same name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crmoorhead (talk • contribs) 13:59, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
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