Talk:Preved

Armed Robber Nickname

A man claiming to be a wanted armed robber seems to decided to go by the nickname "preved," possibly in reference to the phenomenon discussed in the article. See Mercury News article (via Center Daily). My inclination is that it is not sufficiently notable for inclusion into the article, but I thought I would bring it here to see what other people thought. --TeaDrinker 20:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Although hilarious, I don't think that is a major enough news story to make it into here. Maybe if he strikes again. eae 00:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

'Aftar'

In Padonki's slang it's correctly written as 'afftar' (with two 'f'). Correct, please. And... Where's the picture itself?

UPD: And, by the way, the modified drawing first appeared on a russian collective blog dirty.ru. Could you, please, mention this one too?

UPD2: Ah, yes. 'Afftar' can be written with one 'f' too. Looks like there's no 'canonic' spelling for this word among Padonki.

I strongly doubt the picture itself is public domain, although it's displayed on the russian version of this article. As for dirty.ru, I'm not sure it's important to the article or to the phenomenon that the picture first appeared on one blog vs. somewhere else, but the concern is, how do you prove it? And by the way, it's a good idea to sign your comments with ~~~~. eae 00:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

WRBW, WRBS

What is WRBW and WRBS? I don't think that the article refers to radio stations of those names. --Amir E. Aharoni 18:17, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I rewrote the explanation of the conventions, in large part because WRBW and WRBS are not standard terms. eae 00:57, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Preved not Padonkis this is different subculture —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.167.98.19 (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Medved

The Medved meme is clearly a reference to the exaggerated nasally guttural pronunciation that has been stereotyped as Jewish, wherein the final d is not palatalized. The following video clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQaLuA4U7MI)starts with an image where this speech stereotype is shown in an antisemitic context (Medved, Gussky instead of Russky.)217.132.217.174 (talk) 07:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a laughable assertion. There's nothing antisemitic about Preved. EAE (Holla!) 23:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge into Preved

• Oppose. This article is about the original painting, which has some encyclopedic merit in and of itself. Preved is about a modified version of that painting, and more about the meme. I don't see how it would be helpful to merge the articles. EAE (Holla!) 01:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge

This article is basically the same as Bear Surprise. They should be merged. Bsimmons666 (talk) 19:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 22:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Disagreed. The subjects are basically different in many respects. If anything, "Bear Surprize" must be merged into "Preved", since the painting apparently has no its own notability outside "preved". - 7-bubёn >t 00:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You're contradicting yourself. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 06:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops, agreed. I thought that the merge proposal was in different direction. - 7-bubёn >t 08:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for clarifying. Even if it were in the other direction, we can still agree that a merge is appropriate. — Ƶ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 16:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest not to merge yet, for technical reasons. If merge is to be done, it must go from "bear surprize" into "preved", due to relative weight of cultural impact. But then thre is chance to lose the image of the painting, which is by strich "fair use" interpretation may be only in the article about the painting, i.e., in Bear Surprize. There are quite a few super-rigorous rule checkers in wikipedia. So let's think twice. - Altenmann >t 15:51, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Weak Support. The original proposal/template doesn’t make clear what direction the merge should go in. Nonetheless, I think it’s clear that Bear Surprise’s content should be moved here, rather than putting the whole background of the Превед meme on Bear Surprise. While it’s true the two are not synonymous and I would have originally opposed the move, the page as it stands has very little information not related to the Internet phenomenon, and it’s unclear whether that painting is a particularly notable work of John Lurie’s in its own right. Unless/until the page can be fleshed out, better to just have a bit of background on the original painting here. —Wiki Wikardo 15:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

NPEBEA

In 2007 the "NPEBEA virus" struck the iPhones. Guess what it was... (lazy ones may just check google). The funnest thing is that some folks say that "npebea" means "surprize" in Russian. Pwned! Unfortunately there is no WP:RS to put this into the article. (To non-russian speakers: NPEBEA is how the affected iPhone users read ПРЕВЕД. See also Volapuk encoding.) - Altenmann >t 15:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

substitution environments

In the examples I've seen so far, voiceless consonants are written as voiced only in devoicing environments (so that they would not be read wrong): at word-ends, and before other voiceless consonants. Is that generally true? —Tamfang (talk) 03:17, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

How does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?

The article How does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD? was proposed for merge into this one. This is a complete non-sense, as apart from describing internet memes originating from Russia they have nothing in common. They originated within different means of communications from different internet subcultures in a different time frame. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 01:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

• Agree per above, the merge proposal makes no sense. Aside, the article is featured at Wikipedia:Unusual_articles so it has its special standalone meaning. --ssr (talk) 09:30, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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