Talk:Pride (In the Name of Love)

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There were two separate music videos made for this song -- one was the cinematic black and white video, and the other was just a simple tour of the recording sessions in Slane Castle.--68.54.17.184 02:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The black and white video showed several places around Ringsend in Dublin, including the East-Link bridge.Autarch 19:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Moulin Rouge cover

It should be noted here that this song is part and parcel of the Elephant Love Song medley in the movie. Anyone who edits this frequently please note. Berserkerz Crit 09:35, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed it from the list of covers. Firstly, it is not really a cover, it's a six-second snippet on top of the song, and secondly i really don't think it is notable for and encyclopedia. Merbabu 09:45, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm okay. But IMO I think it is notable since the lyrics were used to portray a different angle in the name of love (for sex). Maybe not suitable as part of the section cover but in the Trivia? Berserkerz Crit 15:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Um, please no triva. Trivia = trivial = not notable = unencyclopedic. Sorry. In fact, if one must include it, then list it under the covers section but make it clear it was a very short snippet within another song. i do like the film though - amazing. kind regards --Merbabu 16:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC) Merbabu 16:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Oops I see there is no trivia section. The bullets I saw were titled as Covers. Hmm I'll try to come up with a decent bullet sentence if I can. =) Berserkerz Crit 02:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good - just explain "snippet", etc. Trivia sections are bad news - in my opinion. see WP:AVTRIV. regards Merbabu 02:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Grammar in lyrics

The grammar in the lyrics is, as far as I can see, highly unusual. The first sentece goes 'One man come in the name of love', whereas I would expect 'One man come[u]s[/s] in the name of love'. I'm not a native English speaker and Bono is, so I expect there is some reason for it. (My Word-version marks it as grammatically incorrect ;)) Is it Subjunctive mood, Imperative mood, Artistic freedom or something completely else? Although I would like a simple answer, the article would not improve much by original research. I searched internet, and found this forum with the same question, where it is answered as being subjunctive (somebody else suggests it's perfect tense, but that does not cover the rest of the lyrics). But this forum is not a reliable source. There must have been some place (book/magazine/...) where the lyrics were discussed and the unusual grammar was mentioned. Can somebody provide such a source? --EdgeNavidad (talk) 07:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I know the answer, however, Bono has sung it with the 's's in several occasions, such as live performances at Mexican City during the Pop mart Tour, at MSG during the Elevation Tour, at Chicago and Oackland during the Vertigo Tour. Those occasions are all after their Album 'Pop'. As far as I know, Bono had been singing it as the original studio recording -Live at Paris during the Joshua Tree Tour, a track from the Rattle And Hum album, a live performance from Sydney during the Zoo TV tour. I guess Bono just didn't realize the error and he figured it out at some point between the Zoo TV tour and the Pop Mart Tour? josep00 00:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I've heard both versions, i mean, with the 's's and without 'em. i think he didn't notice that. so as when he wrote the song and he sang early morning, instead in the evening --Ali Hewson (talk)

Personally I've always read "One man come..." as the same kind of form as men fallen in battle; he was being sent to the city" and so on. An action in the past, finite or non-finite. But overall, the use of simplified verb morphology in the lyrics ("one man he resist" etc) also sounds like a nod to reggae and pidgin English, the likes of "them belly up, but we still hungry", "say no go" and the like - a way iof hinting identification with the outsiders and non-standards through a stylistic device. That's probably part of the idea too for a band that emerged from a background of ethnic divisions and historical/national rifting.

References to Jesus Christ

Although, the song is dedicated to MLK, I suggest that the references to Jesus should be mentioned, as the some lyrics are clearly talking about Jesus. I think that Bono might have been trying to make a connection between MLK and Jesus. josep00 00:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Source? We need information to back this up. "I think" isn't grounds for inclusion. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 01:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't have complete access to the internet but i think u do. So... try to look in the official website of U2. maybe there's something about reference to Jesus. Ali Hewson (talk) 14:21, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

The first part of the song does remind me of Jesus Christ.

"One man come in the name of love. One man come and go. One man come he to justify. One man to overthrow.

In the name of love. What more in the name of love. In the name of love. What more in the name of love.

One man caught on a barbed wire fence. One man he resist. One man washed up on an empty beach. One man betrayed with a kiss."

A website says:

"Bono is speaking about those throughout history who have died because they preached of the equality of all men and practiced nonviolence as the only way to achieve their goal of having this equality universally recognized.

MLK is the primary example of nonviolent resistance as the only way to bring about changes in civil rights. But there are allusions to others; Christ for example.

The song is about singular "people" (including Christ as man) that lived their life with pride. Not in a boastful way, but with the pride a person has when their thoughts and actions are motivated by their understanding and full awareness of the dignity and sanctity of ALL human life."

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=899

Qewr4231 (talk) 09:57, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Original Obama inauguration plan

From Hot Press: http://www.hotpress.com/Barack-Obama/news/Bono-on-Barack-Obama/9349450.html?new_layout=1 Melicans (talk, contributions) 04:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Genre warring

Whether or not the song is alternative rock is beside the point. If you can't back up your edits with reliable sources that haven't been deprecated, then you most certainly should not be adding the info to the article. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 22:14, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Let's find a good source then — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:7143:FD00:292C:D64A:4454:BB7C (talk) 00:38, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

You do that. And post it here when you find it... before you add it to the article. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 03:04, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Can we please add this section to the genre? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:7143:FD00:292C:D64A:4454:BB7C (talk) 00:13, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Gee, you asked really nicely. That's swell. I say let's do it! find a reliable source. - SummerPhD^v2.0 04:06, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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