Talk:Prince Marko/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Redtigerxyz (talk · contribs) 05:13, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Who is he ? "He is described as a man of immense size..." him? "Vukašin murdered him..."
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	See automated message below. Redtigerxyz Talk 05:17, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Historical dates like" at the end of July 1361" need inline citations. Please add references at the end of the sentences or near the years. Also quotes like "I, in the Christ God the pious King Marko..." need inline citations immediately after them. Ref 62: Write ref details like year, author, publisher in English. Title is ok in Serbian, but add rough translation of title in English. Replies/Work here--Redtigerxyz Talk 19:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC) Resolved. --Redtigerxyz Talk 05:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	File:Marko kraljevic on horseback.jpg: invalid fair use. Other portrayals of Marko exist. File:50-Dinara-1931-back.jpg: Current template used says "This template must not be used on its own. To establish PD status it must be used only with an appropriate license " File:Marko Kraljević i Musa Kesedžija.jpg: When did author (artist) die? Information needed to ascertain PD-art status Wherever PD-art templates are used, "please specify why the underlying work is public domain in both the source country and the United States" File:Marko - money.jpg: No source information. File:Južni ulaz Markovog Manastira.JPG: invalid PD-art tag use. File:Kral Volkašin large.jpg should have PD-art tag File:Marko Mrnjavcevic.JPG: disputed PD-art tag I have nominated some for deletion and removed some.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	PASS --Redtigerxyz Talk 05:31, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

• Is Musa Kesedžija and Musa the outlaw same?
• What is sister-in-God/brother-in-God ?

Why not use blood brother? brother-in-God doesn't seem to be right English (I don't know the term). --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

• "In modern culture" needs cleanup. Citations missing for most of the section. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 06:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

• Yes, Musa Kesedžija and Musa the Outlaw are the same person. I changed Outlaw to Kesedžija for consistency.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:27, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I've clarified that Momčilo "...was described as a man of immense size" and that he was murdered by Vukašin. I hope I've addressed your concerns with regard to prose. As for, sister-in-God/brother-in-God− I believe it's another way of saying sister-in-law and brother-in-law. I'll fix that promptly. Also, I'll address the other issues as soon as I, or someone else find(s) some sources to put into the Modern Culture section. Regards, 23 editor (talk) 17:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Without the unreferenced section too, the article is very broad in coverage. So if you remove it, I could pass the article if no other issues. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 04:32, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

• If this article is about a person, please add {{persondata|PLEASE SEE [[WP:PDATA]]!}} along with the required parameters to the article - see Wikipedia:Persondata for more information.^[?]

Not mandatory suggestion for GA status. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:11, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

• Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers), when doing conversions, please use standard abbreviations: for example, miles -> mi, kilometers squared -> km², and pounds -> lb.^[?]

Use of kilograms etc. May be you can use {{convert}}. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:11, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

• Please make the spelling of English words consistent with either American or British spelling, depending upon the subject of the article. Examples include: honor (A) (British: honour), behavior (A) (British: behaviour), mustache (A) (British: moustache), sabre (B) (American: saber), recognize (A) (British: recognise), ization (A) (British: isation), travelled (B) (American: traveled), skillful (A) (British: skilful), skilful (B) (American: skillful), any more (B) (American: anymore).

Replies/Work pending here --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I have standardizes as British spelling. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

• As done in WP:FOOTNOTE, footnotes usually are located right after a punctuation mark (as recommended by the CMS, but not mandatory), such that there is no space in between. For example, the sun is larger than the moon [2]. is usually written as the sun is larger than the moon.[2]^[?]

I did check which exact instance the script is talking about. Please check all references once. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:11, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

• Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.^[?]

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Redtigerxyz ^Talk 05:06, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I've removed the unsourced section. 23 editor (talk) 17:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Striking some out; resolve the remaining. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 12:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the money image completely and I've added blood brother instead of "brother-in-God", etc. Further changes are coming. 23 editor (talk) 00:16, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Ref 62 has been fixed. More changes coming. 23 editor (talk) 02:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

highlighted pending. Please fix asap so we can close this. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I've added inline citations after or near dates/quotes.