Talk:Proboscis monkey

earlier comment

It occurs to me that people who hve never heard of this monkey might think its a troll! A rare, big nosed monkey with a lot of gas sounds suspect, but I assure everyone, it exists :) --Mishac 04:08, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

an upright primate

This is the only primate besides humans known to walk upright for any length of time. Troops of proboscis monkeys have been filmed walking upright, in single file, along forest trails, with the females carrying their infants on their hips, just as we do. This presumably is related to their amphibious lifestyle, now wading in shallow water, now walking on dry land; and is interesting in light of the "aquatic ape" hypothesis of human evolution, the idea that we walk upright because our ancestors lived in a similar environment. This would certainly be worth mentioning in a full article, regardless of the merits of the aquatic ape hypothesis. --kwami

Added a paragraph about their arboreal/amphibious habitat. This is one of the more remarkable things about these primates. —kwami 06:09, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

actually aren't bonobos known for walking upright for long periods of time also. they arent habitual bipeds only humans are but many non human primates use this form of locomotion. [anon.]

AFAIK, apes walk upright when wading, or when making threats, etc., but don't use it as a normal mode of locomotion the way Nasalis has been seen to, certainly not carrying babies on their hips. But maybe I'm wrong about bonobos. kwami 05:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

picture

This article is just screaming out for a picture. Does anybody have one they'd like to contribute? --JianLi 06:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

From Commons. --84.20.17.84 17:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

In fiction

Would a link to Flight 714 or Rastapopoulos be off-topic? --84.20.17.84 17:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it'd fit right in if there was an "In popular culture" section. Muad 16:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Aquatic monkey ape hypothesis speculative pseudoscience unsourced babble content

I removed the speculation about the monkey's proboscis being somehow related to the aquatic ape theory without reading the aquatic ape Wikipedia article given as a reference. This requires a scientific citation of some sort, not an inter-article Wiki wave. I'm thinking someone will be resent my working on their monkey article (Proboscis Monkey), or any of the many short or poorly written monkey articles on Wikipedia that people aren't working on, although they're preventing others from adding things or cleaning them up. Please feel free to tell me on my talk page to f off and leave your article alone, if this is the case, and I will be happy to do so. --Amaltheus (talk) 05:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

What's with all the penises?

When doing a google image search for "Proboscis Monkey", EVERY SINGLE image of a male with the groin visible has an erection. I thought they might be one of the few animals with a "penis bone", meaning they'd always be like that (making them even more rediculous looking) but there's no mention on this page. If they DON'T have "penis bones", then I'd still be curious why they have erections all the freaking time. 99.246.109.131 (talk) 03:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Big nose for males only?

In the text it says "The [big] nose is thought to be used in mating and is unique to the males of the species", but I googled it and found that females also have big noses too (compare to other species), just not as big as the males. Need changes here? Chakazul (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Penises, noses, aquatic ape, etc

All edits have been incorporated. Wikipiedia is very primate gender-friendly included is female proboscis which really is tiny compare to the male.. I did not see any erect penises- I suggest someone requires several cold showers. Any additional input would be vastly appreciated especially from the learned and primate experts.Starstylers (talk) 17:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to upload any images to commons. I don't think there would be any resistance to including the images you propose. Shashamula (talk) 14:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

About the erect penises...

I'm not sure if this can be admitted into the article (I don't have a source) but the male will wave his erect penis at who or whatever he finds a threat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.62.170 (talk • contribs)

If you can cite a verifiable and reliable source, it would be a reasonable addition to the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Did a bit of hunting around. I don't know exactly if this can be cited as a reliable source, but it's something. (http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/entry/proboscis_monkey/behav) In the very last paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.62.170 (talk) 10:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Reference to giant pangolins?

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_pangolin pangolins do not walk on their legs at all. This page seems to contradict that. Someone should fix one or the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.215.90 (talk) 09:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Behavior in the proboscis monkey

The Behavior section for the proboscis monkey is developing but could use some organizational changes and expansion. The social behavior section mentions differences between groups and bands in the fission-fusion society layout, but this could be clarified further. It may be useful to comment on the relatedness within groups and bands, and the inclusive fitness advantage proboscis monkeys gain from this organization. Also, mentioning some band-shared resources besides sleeping site might help if there is evidence for it. For instance, band movement or even sleeping site location may be important. This will help raise the discussion about altruism in this article. Aside from the aquatic monkey ape hypothesis speculation (see above), if citable information on the monkey’s nose size is available this can nuance this section especially if it is involved in mate selection. Noses could also be involved in kin discrimination as a “greenbeard.” Verifiable information on proboscis monkey erections (see above) is also needed in the reproduction or communication sections. In terms of uni-male groups, more information on male aggression is needed. The discussion of all-male groups may also benefit from mentioning altruism here, similar to cooperative courtship. Alarm call behavior, and the differences between genders is a point that should be expanded on, especially if this is has different implications for males and females. For example, proboscis monkeys may use altruistic alarm calls to help kin in their group, but not in a band. Also, the behavior section could also use a diet section, as the monkey’s eating habits are not really mentioned here. Nsavalia23 2:40, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

at least a kilometer from a water source?

In the range/habitat section, under ecology, it is stated that "This species usually stays at least a kilometer from a water source". Shouldn't that be "at most" instead of "at least"? The current statement makes very little sense to me.

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Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2018

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK _Discuss 22:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Hat note

I'd like to add a hat note for the other uses of Proboscis {{about|the monkey|Proboscis monkey|the mouth part|Proboscis (genus){{!}}''Proboscis'' (genus)|anomaly of the human nose|Proboscis (anomaly)}} any objections (I couldn't find the mouth part from here) Sciencefish (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

I don't think that's needed. The hatnote makes sense at proboscis, because that is the base term, but we wouldn't want it at any of the dozen or so terms where it's just part of the expression. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 18:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Most aquatic primate?

How is the proboscis monkey the most aquatic primate, if humans are more adapted to aquatic life in a number of anatomical features and are able to both swim and dive longer and faster without supplementary means? I am not allowed to edit that claim. TobiVega (talk) 15:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

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who discovered the proboscis monkey

who discovered the proboscis monkey Devinbellon (talk) 01:01, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The native Borneans, presumably. If you mean the author of the first Western scientific description, that's already in the article. Anaxial (talk) 05:05, 10 May 2023 (UTC)