Talk:Proctalgia fugax

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This Talk page is for discussion to make the Proctalgia fugax page free of personal anecdotes WP:OR, encyclopedic and WP:NPOV. Please keep discussion on this page free of personal histories, remedies and stories and opinion. Ljmajer (talk) 06:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Interestingly, Ljmajer, in the 2 years since your request there is nothing but "personal histories, remedies and stories and opinion." Franklinjefferson (talk) 05:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

• Of course since nothing on WP is ever really "lost", if you do want to read the posts that Ljmajer has deleted from this talk page, just click on the link for the archive. The last archival was as of 5 June 2010; more recent deletions (up to 24 June 2011) can be read by reviewing the history for this talk page. Shalom S. (talk) 09:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Just to make things easier to find: people who come here looking for relief can and should read all the deleted text over the history of this page, containing personal anecdotes and remedies, at the following four links: [1] [2] [3] [4]. A past version of this talk page was where I found the relief I sought, so it pains me a bit that people feel the need to keep it pristine (as much as I do understand the wiki-instincts involved.) User:Glenn Willen (Talk) 20:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

• This page, as of Jan 2014, has some entries that could be seen as advertising (even using trade-names for various medications). Is anyone watching this page? If not I will be back in a few weeks to review the page, ensure that entries are referenced, and to see if I can find anything in the literature re: effective treatments! Buckethed (talk) 05:55, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!

I am so relieved to read about this condition - I had an attack last night, I thought I was a goner with prostate cancer and have been really worried. The PF condition has been bad but sporadic and connot trace any link with food or lifestyle but I was getting increasingly concerned especially with the proximaty to the prostrate gland. I am 43 (male) and have had on and off attacks for 10 years at least. It occurs usually at the dead of night and the pain is so intense it brings tears to my eyes. The need to deficate is true for me and actually sitting on the loo with my head in hands going through the "pushing" motion can help though never really passing much. Eventaully it fades after 20 mins - sometimes squatting and relaxing breathing will help me but I'm so relieved that I am not alone in this - I will give the dildo and masturbation a miss as it might be hard to explain to the kids but thanks for all your posts. As unpleasant as it is, it seems that it is not clinically serious and we are not alone. RH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.110.159.178 (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Pain is so severe, I sweat, muscles tremble. Enema helps sometimes, if not a pill of buscopan (or other menstruation pain releif) works. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.82.152.56 (talk) 23:21, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

OR: soap

I've found a correlation to when I've been overly aggressive with soap hours before. I suspect natural oils are defeated causing internal frictional tension. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.166.126 (talk) 02:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

== How to stop the PROCTALGIA FUGAX episode == I have suffered with Proctalgia Fugax ever since I was a young boy only, I never knew what it was or that there was even a name for it. Over the years I tried many doctors but none of them had a clue what I was talking about when discribing my pain. One doctor said enlarged colon, one said bad diet ETC: I thought I was the only person who had this problem. Whenever I would have an attack in the past, I would push like trying to defecate,(Do Not Do This)it only makes it worse. After years of suffering I found a way to stop it. Lay flat on your back, no pillow under your head, bending your knees bringing them up like your going to do a sit-up only, bring your heels closer to your (butt) with your feet flat on the bed or floor. Then bend your feet up and back toward your head leaving only the back of your heels resting on floor or bed. Knees and feet should be at 90 degrees or straight up. Really stretch your toes back toward you and hold that stretch as long as you can before relaxing. You will find the stretch will stop the pain untill you relax your feet but the pain will return. As soon as you can do the stretching with your feet again holding it as long as you can. It may take a few of the stretches untill the episode ends but it will end much faster than any have before and won't be as painful as the ones you experienced in the past. This is the only treatment but it must be started as soon as you feel the episode comming on. I have tried drugs, hot baths and showers, enemas, ETC: After you try this, please post your results here so others will know it works. PS, don't sleep on your side with knees bent or with pillows between legs as this will bring on an episode... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barky777 (talk • contribs) 13:00, 14 August 2012 (UTC) There's DEFINITELY a "rightness" to this reply: I, too, have suffered from PF for years without diagnosis, and my "personal solution" whenever I get an attack while trying to sleep is to move to the couch, and try to "sit" on the wall---as in, put my head where one's knees normally go while couch-sitting, and try to lay my legs flat against the wall where one's back normally faces. I straighten my legs, let my ankles rest against the wall high above, and just let myself drift like I'm trying to fall asleep. It's really hard to fall asleep like this, but, by the time insomnia becomes a problem, my PF symptoms have subsided and I can just "topple over" sideways and sleep (for real) on the couch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eunomiac (talk • contribs) 06:01, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Quick Relief

I have suffered from proctalgia fugax for years and at times it was quite debilitating. Although I've always thought that "medical marijuana" was an excuse for people who just wanted to get high, I have found that a couple puffs of good weed eliminates the symptoms in just a few minutes.

Proctalgia fugax during periods

There is no mention of Protalgia Furax during periods. A lot of women experience it during that time.

Releaf

All proposed treatments (also in Diskussion) are 'cosmetical', which means they treat the effect, but not the cause. Cause is mostly sitting with too tight belt and/or in backward position. Former trousers were shaped higher, nowadays the belt radius presses into the belly, when sitting. When people become older and body shape changes with more fat or water, this condition can happen. Same during night, wenn something presses into the belly or the area between pelvic and upper leg. Sorry for my bad English. Rest of treatment ist supporting blood circulation (warm-cold showers, muscle exercises, ...). Now you know the reason, treat yourselves. -- 178.165.129.68 (talk) 10:18, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Not an unusual side effect with anti-diarrheal meds...

I will not mention brands but most with the "A-D" in the name to indicate they are anti-diarrheal may cause this condition briefly after use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.22.177.149 (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Anti-diarrheal medications act as non-psychoactive opioids so that is mentioned in this article. 197.94.85.147 (talk) 14:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Cannabis suppositories?

Is there really any evidence for this being an effective treatment? At least let's not state it as a fact. Something like "some people believe" may be more neutral. 197.94.85.147 (talk) 14:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

"Some people believe" just invites a "Who?" citation request. Either the statement needs to be cited, or it needs to be removed. - TimDWilliamson ^speak 16:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)