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Perhaps include a section on what motivates individuals, or companies, institutions to get certified?

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--Afam1986 (talk) 07:10, 12 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Criticism of the PEFC

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(remember to log in and sign your comments for credibility --duncan.lithgow (talk) 17:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC))Reply

This article has no mention of the relative merits of the PEFC versus other schemes. There was previously a "critics" section (see here for example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Programme_for_the_Endorsement_of_Forest_Certification_schemes&oldid=212914839) , which mentioned that the PEFC has been heavily criticised by many NGOs, but this was deleted by a user with an IP address registered to the PEFC (see here http://samspade.org/whois/213.173.160.126)

The criticism section read:

Environmental non-governmental organisations (WWF, Greenpeace, FERN, The Wilderness Society (Australia), The Finnish Nature League) and others have criticized PEFC for being dominated by the forest industry. The major concerns emphasized by the critics are that the PEFC certification process:

  • is not transparent to the public and the parties involved.
  • does not require forest management unit level certification.
  • does not require independent third party assessment and annual field audits.
  • does not allow for equitable and balanced participation and decision making.
  • There are currently no environmental non-governmental organisations supporting the PEFC certification.

There is also no mention that the PEFC was set up by the forest industry. See the list of members here http://www.pefc.org/internet/html/members_schemes/4_1120_60.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hectorguinness (talk • contribs) 17:50, 10 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

As indicated by the person deleting, the section was deleted because there was no reference available - and just because something has appeared on Wikipedia does not mean that it is true. The PEFC certification process is probably one of the most transparent ones of any certification schemes out there. All assessment documents are publicly available on pefc.org, and all process have at least one round of public consultations. Third party assessment according to ISO rules are required. You might want to inform yourself before repeating errors of the past. (unsigned)
I have added some of the criticism back into the article. If someone wants to find references for the listed criticisms above they could also be added. --duncan.lithgow (talk) 17:39, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Lack of third party sources

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I have taken the following statements out of the article because they reference PEFC members and are therefore not impartial in their claims.

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Furthermore, other international conventions relevant in forest management and ratified by the country will be respected through the legislative framework. Such conventions include, amongst others:

<end quote> --duncan.lithgow (talk) 17:55, 3 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Reference number 12 is dead : ^ www.pefcwatch.org is a collaboration between the Finnish Nature League and Greenpeace — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.178.199.127 (talk) 09:21, 14 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

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