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Should Camel urine be included within this prophetic medicine article ?

Pinging Wikipedians who have previously contributed to this issue. 39.37.170.148, Mr.Sarcastic, Roxy the dog, 119.152.136.93, SharabSalam

To seek a consensus on the resolution of[1]

Camel urine

It is advocated by Muhammad. It is as much a prophetic medicine as are black seeds or honey. It is recommended by Saudi Universities. It is drunk in Saudi Arabia and Yemen. It is considered an alternative medicine. It is not recommended for drinking by the WHO. Its inclusion meets WP:PGs.

From the above and with WP:NOTCENSORED

YES include 'Camel urine' within 'Prophetic medicine' Koreangauteng (talk) 09:21, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

There was consensus not to include the content on camel urine in the very article on camel urine. It would not make any sense for there to be an opposing consensus in a separate article.

The problem is that you are combining sources to make an overall statement that are not explicitly stated by the source themselves.

You need a source that explicitly identifies camel urine as a noteworthy part of the tradition prophetic medicine tradition. You can't just use your interpretation of a a primary source.

You need an independent source that shows that Saudi universities recommend it that explicitly identifies it as a part of prophetic medicine. A cherry-picked study does not show that it's widespread or taught by universities, or that the author wasn't joking or something. Even a source that says that Saudi universities teach it but that does not use the words "prophetic medicine" would not be adequate for this article. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:32, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, these sources should really be written by mainstream medical professionals, not the people who believe this stuff, not by sensationalist news writers who are just looking for clicks. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:50, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Do not ping me. -Roxy, the PROD. . wooF 11:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Koreangauteng, the Islam.ru and Islam.web sites explicitly identify blackseeds with prophetic medicine and the hadith cited, unlike your WP:SYNTH edits but if you want to edit just to prove a point, go ahead. The Islamqa removal was justified. 39.37.170.148 (talk) 23:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Addition of Miswak/Siwak

Hello,

given this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miswak#Hadiths_concerning_the_miswak (Hadiths quoting Muhammad as recommending the use of a miswak plus the widespread adhesion of this advice in the muslim world), the section Recommandations could (or should) include a Miswak entry, don't you think? (-: 2A01:CB04:BC:3200:A938:9240:D175:E6AD (talk) 23:49, 21 October 2022 (UTC)