Talk:Prostitution among animals

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Thesamshannon in topic Capuchin Economics

Title change

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I do not agree with the name change to "Prostitution". If the sources don't use quotation marks, which they don't, then neither should our title. SilverserenC 02:39, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

The reputable sources that I looked at don't use the world "Prostitution". The world protitution is generally used for humans, and when it is generally a monetary transfer for sexual services. <blush, blush>. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
BBC is not reputable? --SupernovaExplosion Talk 04:27, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
This source does, as do the news sources, but I assume they don't live up to what you consider reputable. Prostitution is the exchange of goods or services for sex, in short, having sex with someone to obtain something from them. This is, as far as can be told with animals, what these listed species appear to be doing. SilverserenC 04:29, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
On the scale of rating sources a tabloid is not as reputable as the BBC which is not as reputable as a scientific journal article. As an encyclopaedia we should be pedantic and to call prostitution anything other than the exchange of sexual services for money is sloppy usage of the word. Hence the need for scare quotes. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:45, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
We should place a higher reliance on scientific publications (in this instance) rather than on news sources. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:46, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
The exchange of goods for sex among humans is commonly not called prostitution, it's an accepted part of dating and marriage. Only when there is a contract to perform a sex act for a defined amount of money is it called prostitution. Animals don't have money, so the comparison doesn't hold. For good reason there isn't an article about "Marriage among animals" either.--92.77.217.64 (talk) 21:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is against moving to either of the proposed titles. (non-admin closure) Jenks24 (talk) 06:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)Reply


Prostitution among animals"Prostitution" among animals – My move was reverted. See comments in the previous section. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 04:49, 5 April 2012 (UTC) Prostitution among animalsSexual favours amongst animals See prev section and due to the WP:TITLEFORMAT issue that has been pointed out. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 18:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose The term prostitution, without quotes, is used by all the news sources. Furthermore, this source also uses it. Prostitution, unlike other things based around emotions or other human-specific activities, is defined as just being the exchange of sex for either goods or services. It is quite clear in these cases, as noted by the sources, that the activities of these animals fall under the definition of prostitution. Therefore, it is the accurate term to use to describe the activities and shouldn't be in quotes. SilverserenC 04:51, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose new title as well You should really start a new RM, not change it mid discussion. And what I said previously still stands, the sources use prostitution, that's the word that should be used. SilverserenC 19:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
  • comment the second suggested title seems to use BritEnglish, but the article uses US english (mostly)... isn't this an WP:ENGVAR issue? And is the original dialect British, Canadian, Australian, or some other dialect? 65.92.183.144 (talk)

After proposal changed

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Comment -- I had considerable reservations about the title when I first saw that this article existed. To me "prostitution" means sex for money, which is inappropriate to animals, but I do not see an obvious solution. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:04, 7 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Prostitution often has to do with money, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing the term means. Prostitution means trading sex for items or services. See survival sex for a type of prostitution that often has nothing to do with money in exchange. SilverserenC 06:13, 8 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
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Is a pebble a stone?

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Why are penguins taking both a "pebble" and a "stone" from other nests? I like to saw logs! (talk) 08:45, 15 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Capuchin Economics

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So after teaching capuchin monkeys to use silver discs as currency to study monkey economics, he finds them trading discs for sex. However, he tried to "prevent further" incidents? How is he studying their economics by altering what they are doing almost immediately? That's not a study, that's just playing . Thesamshannon (talk) 17:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)Reply