Talk:Provisional Irish Republican Army

Latest comment: 4 months ago by PianoDan in topic Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2024
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Shanahan citation

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I can't edit the article since I don't have a user, but I just wanted to draw attention to a problem in a source cited in support of the claim that "Following partition, Northern Ireland became a de facto one-party state governed by the Ulster Unionist Party in the Parliament of Northern Ireland, in which Catholics were viewed as second-class citizens." The footnote cites p. 12 of Timothy Shanahan's book "The Provisional Irish Republican Army and the Morality of Terrorism". On that page, however, the author describes the "Standard Republican Narrative" of which he says that "I will not argue that these myths are false in all respects, but rather that they contain partial-truths at best and that the reality is considerably more complicated" (p. 11).

Should the category " casualties " not be titled " victims ".

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category description 94.173.17.182 (talk) 16:57, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Since the section also includes the IRA's casualties, no. Kathleen's bike (talk) 10:56, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2023

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When talking about IRA targets it must be pointed out that they targeted civilians not connected with the military. For instance the Warrington Town centre bombing and the Arndale Shopping centre amongst others. They also targeted children and young people. 2A00:23C8:2455:4301:EA:900A:F8C6:2E00 (talk) 15:11, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Evidence? The Banner talk 15:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
If you genuinely believe that then you are either insane (in the legal definition under the M'Naghten Rules in which an individual is deemed to be insane if they cannot distinguish right from wrong), a propagandist, or know absolutely nothing. In any of these cases I suggest you stop editing articles connected with this topic. The IP editor literally listed examples but you do not appear to care. 82.16.150.34 (talk) 22:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Actually, they didn't examples. They detailed two incidents, then drew their own conclusions about the targets of those incidents. I recommend reading what Martin Dillon and Andy Oppenheimer (both cited in the article) have said about Warrington, you might learn that your own beliefs are very mistaken. FDW777 (talk) 10:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. This is not an uncontroversial edit which can be applied via an edit request. (It's also not in a "change x to y" format) PianoDan (talk) 21:14, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

The IRA's attacks on civilians are already mentioned = approximately 25 times in the article, including twice in the lead. Would you perhaps also like a banner saying "These guys were bad!"? BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:33, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2024

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Add the "anti-imperialist organization" tag Lajward.Candango (talk) 01:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: The article makes no mention of the IRA having an anti-imperialist stance. Although sources appear to exist that could support such a claim in the article, I also doubt that it would be considered a WP:DEFCAT; it might be an aspect of their motivations, but it's probably far from being their central ideology. Liu1126 (talk) 10:49, 11 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2024

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The provisional IRA was NOT a “terrorist organisation,” it was the only defence Irish Catholic people had against the RUC and British Army, who were placing these innocent people in internment centres without crime or without trial simply for being Irish. Cárthach Leahy (talk) 19:37, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. PianoDan (talk) 17:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply