Talk:Prusik knot
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Inaccuracy?
editAt the bottom of the Prusik knot page, it says:
"The Klemheist tends to be easier to slide up, but does not work well with webbing"
Everything I've read suggests the opposite, that Prusik works best with cord and Klemheist works best with webbing.
See:
- Klemheist knot
- http://www.chockstone.org/TechTips/prusik.htm
- http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/7944/knots.htm
- http://www.gunks.com/index.php?pageid=108&pagenum=3&smGroup=2&smID=4
- http://guidetricksforclimbers.com/appendix.html
What do others think? --Rblack 03:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I agree. Maybe this was a typo, and was meant to read that the prusik does not work well with webbing? --AComrade 13:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed it. --AComrade 21:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
The illustrations, however, show a prusik tied with webbing. This, as others have pointed out, is generally not considered safe because it may not hold. (Freedom of the Hills, 6th ed., page 121.) If I catch a wild hare at some point, I will make new images with accessory cord. Andyrew609 07:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Requested move 15 November 2024
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Prusik knot → Prusik hitch – the Prusik is a hitch, not a knot. Mtnguideben (talk) 16:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Raladic (talk) 16:50, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- A hitch is a type of knot, so I'm not convinced the proposed move would particularly be an improvement. However, what I do think woudl be sensible would be to simply move to Prusik. There's no ambiguity, it's more concise, and per ngrams it seems the simple form enjoys a very large lead over both ... knot and ... hitch combined. — Amakuru (talk) 21:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Revert back to Prusik, undoing an undiscussed move from 2021. 162 etc. (talk) 04:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- A hitch is a type of knot, so I'm not convinced the proposed move would particularly be an improvement. However, what I do think woudl be sensible would be to simply move to Prusik. There's no ambiguity, it's more concise, and per ngrams it seems the simple form enjoys a very large lead over both ... knot and ... hitch combined. — Amakuru (talk) 21:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mtnguideben Appears contentious. Will probably benefit from a full RM discussion to see community input. Raladic (talk) 03:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Move to Prusik to avoid ambiguous terminology. Theparties (talk) 17:27, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Knots has been notified of this discussion. Raladic (talk) 19:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)