Talk:Pskov
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Request
editCan anyone add a paragraph about the present-day economy and industries?
Sister Cities
editI put Perth, UK here and gave it the British flag. To avert it to the Scotland flag and to make it Scotland is to flag war. Mais Oui!, you are a notorious flag warrior and have scolded others for doing that which you are blatantly guilty of. As Perth, United Kingdom was the original entry, it should remain so according to not only the standards of averting a flag war, but to your own standards as well. Enzedbrit 05:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Pihkva / Pihkova
editThe main article is probably written by a Russian who falseficate history the typical Russian way, being also influenced by the Russian Orthodox Church fairy-tales. Nothing of Finno Ugrian part with no mention of Seto people, an Estonian people who were the original inhabitants in the area. Also no mention of Vatja people at all who were also present in the area. This town or shall it be named trading place, with Estonian name Pihkva and Finnish name Pihkova also sometimes called Kääpälä is the original name of the place derived from Kääpä (Polyporae). Then arrived the mixed Balt / Minor Ruthenian Krivitshis. They spoke their own dialect of old Slavonic language. These people lived all together in the area. Later Palaskava / Piskovi / Pihkva / Pihkova belonged to newly founded Navaharod / Uuslinna / Holmgård in its Selonaland. Named after Selona River. The Latvian heimos (tribes) named it Pleskavas, name, from the German name Pleskau (Pleskaw) originates. Russian name was in old Church Slavonic Palaskava. In 903, if Ivar married a local woman, she must have been a Finno Ugrian Setunian of origin. Palaskava sounds much more old Krivitshi (Krivitai / Crivitae) dialect than later developed Muscovite Russian. Or even more ancient Lithuanian language. peharps one can add the Lithuanian name in the article. This name goes in line; Paleskavas, Pleskau, Paskov, Pskov. Original Finno Ugrian names Pihka / Pihkova (Russificated to Piskovi, Pskov) are still in use today (2008) in Estonia and Finland to Russian Pskov, as well as the Latvian, Lithuanian, and German names. This trading place must have had also old Old Prussian name as the Setonians uses still word Kuningaz Piir (for their mythic Setunian Kingdom) and Ruhtinaz for the Duke (Russian Knjäz). The Setunians are undirectly mentioned even in founding the Navaharod. Their Greek Orthodox Christian centrum was Petseri / Petserä Monastery. In ancient times they served their Good Peko, which still lives in their songs and is connected with earth sleeping on the lands under Irposka (Issa) Greek Orthodox Monastery. That is why their Kuningaz Piir is ruled by the Ruhtinaz. The Setonians were also connected through Muromi with Ersa (Erzä) people in Mordia (Mardasland) as late as in c.900 without any tights to Navaharod trading center. Such is history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.95.64 (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Gallery
editDisagree with taking it out; per guidelines: "...the use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images." In this case the gallery reflects, more than the writtten word does, the colorful history of Pskov over a millenium. I feel it does meet criteria for inclusion.Mwinog2777 (talk) 17:53, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- I apologize, but what you say can be applied to absolutely every article - that an image shows more than words. If we accept this, we can add an infinite amount of images everywhere. I do not see any specific argument how a gallery several screens long illustrating a list does not contradict WP:GALLERY here. We have Commons galleries for that, not Wikipedia.--Ymblanter (talk) 03:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
- I disagree. Pskov is unique. It is a city with a great past that can be shown with images, more than words. If you go to Commons galleries for Pskov, simply old buildings, no perspective on the history of the city. The compilaton of images adds an element depth to the printed words. We see the visual history of Pskov over a millenium. I feel in the case of an otherwise challenged city that the gallery does "illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images." FYI, I will not undo your undo.Mwinog2777 (talk) 16:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- No, Pskov is not at all unique. You may open an RfC if you want. This would be the way to proceed. Even better, try to do the same in New York City and see what happens.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:03, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- I disagree. Pskov is unique. It is a city with a great past that can be shown with images, more than words. If you go to Commons galleries for Pskov, simply old buildings, no perspective on the history of the city. The compilaton of images adds an element depth to the printed words. We see the visual history of Pskov over a millenium. I feel in the case of an otherwise challenged city that the gallery does "illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images." FYI, I will not undo your undo.Mwinog2777 (talk) 16:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
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