Talk:Psycho (Red Velvet song)/GA1

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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 06:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Coming soon, maybe later today even --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Y Resolved

Infobox and lead

• Are you sure the language should be in here? If so, target to Korean language.
• Target Digital download to Music download
• No source for the recorded date; either add one in the body or remove it
• Target R&B to Contemporary R&B
• "is a song recorded by" → "is a song by"
• Wikilink girl group to itself
• "for their first compilation album The ReVe Festival: Finale, which" → "from their first compilation album, The ReVe Festival: Finale (2019), which"
• "Cazzi Opeia and EJAE" → "Cazzi Opeia, and EJAE"
• "Record producer" doesn't need the capitalisation
• Target Korean to Korean language
• Target R&B to Contemporary R&B
• ""Psycho" is about how one is in a "strange" relationship" → "it is about how two are in a strange relationship" since this is not directly quoted in the body
• "Along with its accompanying" → "Along with the accompanying" since we know the video is for the song from the accompanying term being used
• Target digitally to Music download
• Release info looks good but this belongs between the album release info and that about composing
• Mention the label(s) the release was through
• Target music critics to Music journalism
• "delivery over its" → "delivery over the"
• "Though it was a "year-end" release" → "Despite being a "year-end" release"
• "several year-end critics lists" → "several year-end lists by critics"
• Wikilink K-pop to itself
• "previous Korean releases in 2019, "Psycho" attained bigger commercial success" → "previous Korean releases that year, the song was more successful commercially" as the current wording isn't very encyclopedic
• "It was also an international success" → "The song was also an international success"
• "on Billboard's World Digital Songs chart" → "on the Billboard's World Digital Songs chart"
• "while being their first chart entry" → "and their first entry"
• "tying them with" → "tying Red Velvet with" as you haven't said who they are specifically for a while

 Done

Background and release

• "During the group's appearance" → "During Red Velvet's appearance"
• "on July 2019" → "in July 2019"
• "that their upcoming plans for 2019" → "that their upcoming plans for that year"
• "namely Day 2 (which was later released on August 20, 2019) and Finale." → "namely Day 2 and Finale, the former of which was later was released on August 20, 2019."
• "the group's third concert La Rouge" → "the group's third concert, La Rouge,"
• Wikilink SM Entertainment
• "midnight of December 12, 2019, along" → "midnight of that year's December 12, along" since you have stated 2019 soon before but can't say "of" too close
• "the group's "music festival" trilogy" → "Red Velvet's "music festival" trilogy"
• Wikilink Instagram to itself
• "was uploaded on" → "was uploaded to"
• Mention the channel is a YouTube one
• "the official video being released a day later" → "the music video being released the following day"
• Write out the info from Release history in prose here

 Done

Composition

• On the audio file's text, wikilink future bass to itself
• "that sees Red Velvet" → "that includes Red Velvet"
• Add refs that are invoked in this section after the file's text too
• "American producer" → "American record producer" with no wikilink(s)
• "EJAE and frequently-collaborated singer-songwriter Cazzi Opeia" → "EJAE, and frequently collaborator Cazzi Opeia" since this is enough intro
• "about a breakup which" → "about a breakup where"
• "to come up with the actual song" → "to come up with the song"
• "acknowledge the group's duality" → "acknowledged Red Velvet's duality"
• "by Opeia (which eventually leaked onto the Internet weeks before the song's release)" → "by Opeia that eventually leaked on the Internet weeks before the song's release"
• Target Korean to Korean language
• "producer Druski and Yoo Young-jin, the latter whom" → "producer Druski, and Yoo Young-jin, the latter of which"
• "Musically, the song was" → "Musically, "Psycho" was"
• Target R&B-pop to Contemporary R&B
• Target classical to Classical music
• Target trap to Trap music
• "which marked the song as their seventh single" → "which made the song the group's seventh single"
• "which combines with" → "which is combined with"
• "slightly different version for the song" → "slightly different version of the song"
• "having a string melody while" → "including a string melody, while"
• "gonna be alright."[7]" → "gonna be alright".[7]"

 Done

Music video

• This section belongs below Accolades; that section and others will be requested for switching by me further on in this review.

 Done

Background

• "video director O whom previously worked" → "video director O, whom previously worked"
• "and its parental album release" → "and Finale's release"
• "the music video was accompanied" → "the visual was accompanied"
• "Choreography for the song" → "Choreography for the video"
• Sure a different introduction can't be given of Bailey Sok then a "then 15-year old" or just keep the Skeleton Crew info solely?

 Done

Synopsis and reception

• "The video opens with member Irene" → "The music video opens with Irene" since this is a new sub-section and we already know who Irene is
• "where other members are seen" → "where other members of Red Velvet are seen"
• "different scene sets: member Seulgi" → "different scene sets, with Seulgi"
• "being overwatched by member Wendy" → "being overwatched by Wendy"
• Target Wendy to Wendy (singer)
• "moves on to member Joy sitting" → "moves on to Joy sitting"
• "first verse where Irene is seen" → "first verse alongside Irene being seen"
• "where member Yeri is dancing" → "where Yeri is dancing"
• "as she continues dancing" → "as the former continues dancing"
• "Joy continues to lead a then-standing near a seemingly behind the stage set Wendy" what does this mean, I'm confused?
• "in a different room where Irene" → "in a different room, where Irene"
• "in the previous room with Joy" → "in the previous room, with Joy"
• "apartment set (which is the place where Wendy is seen singing her parts) with" → "apartment set, in which Wendy is seen singing her parts, with"
• "Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho."" → "Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho"."
• "It is followed by" → "The scene is followed by"
• "turns multiple" specify this?
• "to the scene where all members" → "to the scene in which all members"
• "then ends with Irene" → "before ending with Irene"
• "cuts to the group's name and album logo" → "cuts to the name Red Velvet and the album logo" since we haven't named the group for a while by now
• "Following the music video release" → "Following the music video's release"
• "praising the music video being" → "praising the video for being"
• "Write Kelly Sipko from" → "Writer Kelly Sipko from"
• Remove Refinery29 info due to the new order; just write Morin instead for identification
• "noted the music video's" → "noted the visual's"
• "then released a performance video" → "later released a performance video"
• "and later released a live performance" → "and also released a live performance"
• "on January 13, 2020" → "on January 13 of that year"
• "the music video for "Psycho" hit" → "the music video for the track reached"
• "which is also the group's fastest video" → "which is the group's fastest video"
• "achieving in just" → "achieving it in"

 Done

Tour and live performances

• This section belongs below Commercial performance in the new order
• Retitle to Live performances, since tour performances are the same thing, essentially.
• "comparing to their previous promotion" → "comparing to Red Velvet's previous promotion"
• "Red Velvet gave their first live performance for" → "The group delivered their first live performance of"
• "limited participation for the group's" → "limited participation for their"
• [18][16] put in numerical order
• "Red Velvet was then confirmed" → "Red Velvet were then confirmed"
• "on December 25, scheduled" → "on December 25 of that year, scheduled"
• Remove target on Wendy
• "where they also won their fifth" → "where Red Velvet also won their fifth"

 Done

Commercial performance

• This section belongs in-between Music video and Live performances in the new order
• "Soon after, the song achieved" → "Shortly later, the song achieved"
• "the first girl group (second overall for idol group) to achieve" → "the first girl group and second overall for idol group to achieve"
• "On the final week of December 2019" → "In the final week of December 2019"
• Identify the Gaon chart as being from South Korea
• Remove target on rapper as that is very obvious/pointless
• "first top-two entry" → "first top 2 entry" since MOS:NUMBERS suggests consistency with comparative values
• "and the first to do so since" → "and their first since"
• "while becoming their fifth No. 2 entry and their twelfth top-ten entry overall, respectively" → "while becoming their 5th and 12th number 2 and top 10 entry overall, respectively"
• "issue of Gaon Monthly Digital Chart" → "issue of the Gaon Monthly Digital Chart"
• "In addition, the song" → "In addition, it"
• "It also debuted at number nine" → "The song also debuted at number nine"
• "on the week of" → "for the issue date of"
• The last sentence of the first para needs a ref invoked
• "debuted at number one on the" → "debuted atop the"
• Remove target on Billboard, but target World Digital Songs to World Digital Song Sales
• "chart-topper following their 2018 single" → "chart-topper, following their 2018 single"
• "to achieve such remark" → "to do this"
• "became their sixteenth top-ten entry" → "became their 16th top 10 entry"
• Wikilink 2NE1 to itself
• "the song became their second entry" → "the song became Red Velvet's 2nd entry"
• Target the New Zealand chart to an appropriate wiki page
• "debuting at number ten" → "entering at number 10"
• Target the UK Singles Downloads Chart to an appropriate page
• "making it their first song" → "becoming their first song"

 Done

Critical reception

• This section belongs directly below Composition in the new order
• The ratings box is not needed unless you can add more ratings than what is currently in it
• "Following its initial release, "Psycho" has received positive reviews" → ""Psycho" was met with positive reviews"
• Target music critics to Music journalism
• "called the track" → "viewed the track as"
• "with 3 stars and a half out of 5" → "with three stars and a half out of five"
• "also compliments the song" → "also complimented the song"
• "driving the track" → "driving it"
• Refinery29 should not be italicised
• "giving the song a perfect score out of ten" → "giving it a perfect score out of 10"
• "and said the group" → "and said Red Velvet"
• "made its appearance in several publication's year-end list" → "appeared in several publication's year-end lists"
• Wikilink K-pop to itself
• "ranked the song number eighteen" → "ranked the song at number 18"
• Target pop to Pop music
• Should CelebMix be italicised?
• Mention that the number six rank is on the K-pop year-end list, since otherwise readers are confused.
• "track to sing in the shower."" → "track to sing in the shower"."
• The refs should not be sortable in the table
• BuzzFeed should not be italicised
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources writes against Reddit, so remove those rankings

 Done

Accolades

• This should remain directly under Critical reception in the new order.
• Retitle to Awards
• "Despite the group not attending" → "Despite Red Velvet not attending"
• "managed to achieved a total of nine music show trophies as of" → "managed to achieve a total of nine music show trophies by"
• "Not only did the song become Red Velvet's" → "Not only did the song become the group's"
• "title track (tying with their 2017 single "Rookie"), it was their" → "title track, tying with their 2017 single "Rookie", it was also their"
• Wikilinks for the three channels named
• "It also achieved two consecutive" → "The song also achieved two consecutive"
• "due to the song's massive success on its" → "due to its massive success on the"
• Refs should not be sortable in the tables

 Done

Personnel

• Remove target on Red Velvet
• Studios have been listed here; are you sure you shouldn't state "Mixed at SM Concert Studio Hall" or something like that on multiple occasions?
• If doing the second point, retitle this section to Credits and personnel

 Done

Charts

• Separate these two sub-sections by placing them accross from each other using a col; take "All Mine for example.

 Done

Weekly chart

• Retitle to Weekly charts as there's more than one
• Target World Digital Songs to World Digital Song Sales

 Done

Monthly chart

• Retitle to Monthly charts for consistency
• Change the header to solely listing 2020 in brackets
• Remove the target on Gaon Digital Chart

 Done

Release history

• Region → Country
• Format → Format(s)
• List out the formats separately using * instead of the hlist that is banned now
• Target Digital download to Music download
• Refs should be here and centred too
• Dreamus is mentioned in the infobox labels but not here; either add it here or remove it from the box

 Done

See also

• Good

 Done

References

• Copyvio score looks fine
• Archive all of these using the tool
• Retrieved should be capitalised for all refs
• Some of these are missing publisher/work; make sure they all cite one
• Below if I have told you to change publisher/work, I mean only one should be cited on a ref.
• Cite SM Town as the publisher for ref 2 with the wikilink
• Cite The Korea Herald on ref 4 with the wikilink, also replace the author with the one named in the article
• Cite SM Entertainment on ref 5 as the publisher with the wikilink
• Remove .com from ref 6's work
• Target Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 7
• Refs 9 and 10 are from an unreliable source, so remove them or replace with reliable ones; do this for any others that are found to be unreliable
• Cite Refinery29 as the publisher for ref 14 with the wikilink
• Wikilink Soompi to itself on ref 17
• Ref 18 is from an unreliable source
• Cite KBS as the publisher for ref 20 and target to Korean Broadcasting System
• Also cite as the publisher for refs 22 and 23, but no targets per WP:OVERLINK
• Cite Allkpop as the publisher for ref 24 with the wikilink
• Do the same for ref 25, but with no wikilink
• Cite Gaon Music Chart as the publisher for ref 26 with the wikilink
• Cite the url that leads directly to the mentioned issue date on ref 27, so readers don't have to browse to find it from a long list as that's tedious
• Ref 29 is from an unreliable source
• Cite Official New Zealand Music Chart as the publisher for ref 30 with the wikilink, plus lead directly to the issue date of the chart position
• Remove Official Charts Company from ref 31's title and cite it as the publisher with the wikilink, plus add the date of the chart to the title
• Cite the author's last name first on ref 32 for consistency, while wikilink IZM to itself and remove the publisher, as well as fixing accessdate
• Remove IZM from the title on ref 33 but cite it instead of what's currently there, with no wikilink though
• Cite Malaysian L'Officiel on ref 37 with the target to L'Officiel
• Cite BuzzFeed as the publisher on ref 38
• Ref 39 is from an unreliable source
• Target Medium to Medium (website) on ref 40
• Cite ytn on ref 41
• Cite The Chosun Ilbo on ref 43 with the wikilink
• Change the title to Melon Music Awards on ref 44 and cite Melon instead of m.melon.com
• Cite The Chosun Ilbo on refs 46 and 49 with no wikilinks
• Cite Soompi as the publisher on ref 47 with no wikilink
• Remove wikilink to S.M. Entertainment on ref 51
• Only cite the publisher on ref 52 and add the wikilink to that instead
• Wikilink Recorded Music NZ to itself on ref 53
• Wikilink Recording Industry Association (Singapore) to itself on ref 54
• Cite Gaon Music Chart as the publisher for refs 55 and 59 with no wikilinks
• Cite Official Charts Company as the publisher for ref 57 with no wikilink

 Done

Final comments and verdict

 On hold for now as it's a well-researched, but needs quite a few fixes before reaching GA-status. One suggestion I have would be to add an image, since this article has a lot of information so a relevant one should be easy to find for inclusion. --Kyle Peake (talk) 09:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

✗ Fail I hate to do this but it's been over a week and the nominator has only added a few of the proposed edits, plus they are barely active at WP and the [unreliable source?] template has been planked on two citations of this page. --Kyle Peake (talk) 04:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.