Talk:Psychology/Gilbreth

RFC: Lillian Gilbreth

Should the sentence referring to Lillian Gilbreth be deleted from the subsection on Worker health, safety and wellbeing?

{{rfc|sci|soc}} Enter Yes or Delete, or No or Keep, in the Survey section with a brief statement. Back-and-forth discussion should be in the Threaded Discussion section.

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Delete. Iss246 (talk) 00:46, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Delete.Psyc12 (talk) 01:28, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Delete. Ohpres (talk) 07:46, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Keep. If we specify it was worker welfare/wellbeing not so much health that Gilbreth was one of the pioneering industrial psychologists in. The sources even Lauara Koppes clearly say Gilbreth interceded psychology and worker happiness with every efficiency improvement. Worker health including physical health is a different construct from worker wellbeing and happiness. The argument against the inclusion of Gilbreth in this section is that she was not known for worker health but she was known for improving worker wellbeing and happiness in the history books particularly the 45 years of her career after her husband died. Can we just say wellbeing/happiness rather than worker health as a compromise? Brokenrecordsagain (talk) 09:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

The sources I cited talk about well-being and not just physical health, and they do not credit Gilbreth with being a major figure in that area. If you read her work and sources that talk about her work, Gilbreth was focused on efficiency/productivity, and she had an appreciation for individual differences and psychological factors that would affect performance. She wrote that she thought her methods would be more satisfying, but a passing comment doesn't make her a major figure. Koppes wrote an article on 4 early female IO pioneers including Gilbreth. She summarizes their major contributions this way, "The four female psychologists used scientifically rigorous methods to conduct research on areas of I/O psychology typically examined by applied psychologists of the time, such as selection, acquisition of skills, and work methods and job design for improving efficiency...Gilbreth conducted extensive time and motion studies to understand methods of work and design of jobs." There is no mention of worker well-being.Psyc12 (talk) 19:30, 19 August 2021 (UTC)