Talk:Public policy school

Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy Expansion

Hello! Would anyone be willing to help me expand the Frank Batten School of Leadership and Public Policy? I figured there might be some folks interested in this page. I'm pretty new here and could use some help. Since it's an underdeveloped page I was thinking we could add some more content sections. Since I work at Batten as an intern, there might be some COI issues which is also why I'm asking for help, I'm wholeheartedly interested in writing an unbiased piece and could use some cooperation to ensure that happens.

Here's some articles I pulled together from fairly reliable sources on possible tidbits of info, etc.

Overview

• http://www.uvacontemplation.org/content/frank-batten-school-leadership-and-public-policy
• http://www.appam.org/spotlight-the-frank-batten-school-of-leadership-and-public-policy-at-the-university-of-virginia/

Quote for Batten’s vision for the school

• http://www.northernvirginiamag.com/education/education-features/2008/12/16/colleges2008/

Faculty/Staff

• http://www.nbc29.com/story/23778851/uva-batten-schools-founding-dean-stepping-down
• http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2014/02/batten-hires-shimshack-mbiti
• http://jenniferdoleac.com/
• https://www.coursera.org/instructor/gerrywarburg
• https://sites.google.com/site/ericpatashnik/home
• http://leavittpartners.com/team_members/ray-scheppach/

Faculty (etc.) with Wikipedia pages

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Childress
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Ferzan
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harding_(political_scientist)
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Hitz
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_A._Holt
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_D._Savage
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Wilson
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Brogdon (source saying he’s a Batten student: http://www.virginiasports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/malcolm_brogdon_791198.html)

Degrees

• http://uvamagazine.org/articles/batten_school_seeking_new_undergraduate_degree/

Other

• http://uvamagazine.org/articles/a_new_kind_of_leader -“ Batten School takes hands-on approach to develop ‘challengers of the status quo’”

http://internsdc.com/internship-opportunities/special-interview-kellie-sauls-frank-batten-school-leadership-public-policy/

Virginia Policy Review

• http://virginiapolicyreview.com/

I also have easy access to the University of Virginia's library system if including any information book or special resources here is applicable.--Wannesa (talk) 18:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Ranking

Your ranking links to "Top Public Affairs Schools", which includes a broad range of fields beyond public policy. It would be an improvement to link to "Top Schools for Public Policy", which is a sub-category of "Public Affairs".

I'm wondering if this page should really exist separately from public policy and Category:Public policy schools. What does it add? - ChrisKennedy^(talk) 19:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I also think page brings better and more specific information to readers which can not be properly covered in public policy. For same reason other feilds have seperate article for their schools. Farmanesh

not much yet

You're probably right about this article not adding much---for now. Just remember, this is a new article, and it's quality is going to steadily improve. Law school, business school, medical school, all have their own pages---and public policy schools should too.

title

I disagreed with the direction of the hist merge. The generic article public policy school takes lower case. Note the evidence of special:whatlinkshere/public policy school. Any article about a specific school has upper case. -- RHaworth 10:12, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

major change in name of clean up

Recently there was a major change in the page, it would be nice if the wikipedian discuss such major clean up before doing it and explain his/her reasons. Farmanesh

If admission information is wrong please complete them rather deleting them. School name's are based on most recognized ranking system, they are not arbitarily selected. Wikipedia is about providing relevent information to users and these are both relevent and objective. Please have a look to the provided source. Farmanesh

That is all wrong. Admissions information cannot be "completed" because there are no formal standards. Just giving some standards which nobody actually adheres to is useless. Further, when you give a random 17 from a supposed list of 50 that's pretty arbitrary. Now, even if the information were complete and accurate, it still doesn't belong here. Wikipedia is not "about providing relevent information" (sic); Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and this information adheres to no encyclopediac standards, is unverifiable, and violates Wikipedia policies on academic boosterism. I'm removing it again. -James Howard (talk/web) 12:48, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, there is a link at the bottom to an intended comprehensive list of policy schools, making the listification of this article completely redundant. -James Howard (talk/web) 12:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Fair use of text

I have removed the bulk of the US News list, as it was just a long quotation from another source (i.e., plagiarism). The top few are probably relevant to the discussion; the top 50 are overkill. (ESkog)^(Talk) 20:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't see this as plagiarism, it mentions the source clearly and it gives top 50 of about 250 schools that they rank.Farmanesh (talk) 22:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

This is a copyright violation issue which we take seriously. Please do not re-insert the material. (ESkog)^(Talk) 22:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is it a copy vio when it has the source on it? and BTW even if the ranking is vio but the list of schools (in alphabetical order for example) should stay.Farmanesh (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Citing the source, and then lifting the whole page of someone else's work, is still a copyright violation. Not everything in the world is released under the GFDL like Wikipedia is. On a totally separate issue, I don't see why a list of 50 schools is really good content for this article anyway. (ESkog)^(Talk) 05:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed the US News rankings list entirely from the US public policy schools section

It seems hardly fair that the list of US-based public policy schools should be ordered according to a private for-profit publication. I therefore removed the reference to US News rankings and reordered the list alphabetically. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.37.96 (talk) 01:56, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

international affais?

I'm not sure MIA degrees ought to be listed amongst MPP/MPA schools considering often these programs are in separate schools (ie. SAIS and Georgetown's SFS). Additionally, I think these rankings are not even ranking MIA programs even at schools which house both programs (like SIPA). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.80.10.181 (talk) 15:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Carleton

Carleton University's School of Public Policy and Administration deserves to be on the list for Canada. It is Canada's oldest policy school and located in Canada's capital. How much more "notable" do you need to get for inclusion on this list? Just because it doesn't have an article of its own yet does not mean it should be excluded from the list. http://www1.carleton.ca/sppa/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.151.170.148 (talk) 22:49, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

what is public policy as a school subject

I never heard of it until a few years ago. What kind of jobs do people get with it? Is it another name for poly sci? And why is this article not more developed, given the whole initiative with the 1.2 million dollars and all? 71.246.144.154 (talk) 08:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)