Talk:Pulled pork
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Pulled pork article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||
|
Rewrite
editI couldn't resist re-writing this entry; it was very poorly written, although the information was good. The addition of the smoking/barbecue method of preparing pulled pork seemed both obvious and necessary. PMaranci 17:00, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, concur to the need for a fundamental rewrite! So much of this article is highly inaccurate. For starters, the unique term "Pulled Pork" (both words, properly used as part of a unique title name, require capitalization, so please also correct the title) is NOT a method of cooking, it is a prepared dish. The term is reserved solely for the purely American culinary dish that originated in various parts of the southern US states which uses shredded barbecued pork shoulder as the main ingredient. The actual methods of cooking employed to make Pulled Pork are primarily slow-smoking (generally, performed outdoors) and secondarily, by a slow braise (an indoor variation, generally seen as a substitute); the meat is then shredded manually, mixed with a regional sauce and served on bread or a roll as a sandwich. The attempts in this article to merge Pulled Pork (incorrectly listed in this article as a cooking method) with other dishes from around the world that happen to use shredded pork as an ingredient are, at best, misguided. Also incorrectly, the article is denoted that it has several issues and that one is it lacks a worldwide view. NONSENSE. Not every article requires a "worldwide view". This article is properly concerned with an American dish and does not require a "worldwide view". Other dishes from around the world that use shredded pork should be written as separate articles and linked to this article only as dishes that use pork, or more narrowly, shredded pork, as an ingredient. The reflexive rush to link unrelated articles and terms on Wikipedia seems to emanate from the currently popular politically-correct sensibility of inclusion at all costs, facts be damned. The term "Pulled Pork" originated in the US and describes only the unique dish that originated in the US. The article as it appeared on October 25, 2018 would have properly been titled "Shredded Pork" and would be correctly described as an ingredient, not as a cooking method. 71.112.240.217 (talk) 12:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Simmered or barbecued?
editThe first paragraph says that pulled pork is pork shoulder that is barbecued, i.e. slow-smoked. The second paragraph then describes several cooking techniques involving simmering in broth. If it is really true that both techniques produce "pulled pork", then the first paragraph definition needs to be changed... after all, by no stretch of the imagination is simmering in broth the same thing as barbecueing. --Macrakis 05:11, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
"Pork braised in sauce in a crock-pot or other such device is not considered true barbecue." Why? Who says this with what authority? What is true bbq then? Perhaps a stronger link to the BBQ page would be appropriate. Tolchocker 05:05, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- "True" barbecue, according to Southern US cuisine, is really exclusively meat which has been slow-smoked for a period of 6-20 hours, usually consisting of pulled pork, pork ribs, and beef brisket. I have major problems with the barbecue page as a whole, but recognize the it is a term that has different meanings across the glove. That being said, you can make pretty tasty pulled pork by slow-braising it, either in a crockpot or an oven; just don't call it barbecue around a purist :-) --JD79 17:46, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Can you add a source to the article or is that OR?Toddstreat1 00:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- Goodness. The method of cooking strictly termed as "barbecue", often mistakenly confused with grilling, is an American tradition as old as the country itself. The evidence is easily found on the internet within seconds. 71.112.240.217 (talk) 12:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Pulled?
editA section Describing why its called pulled would be nice to include. (141.219.42.60 21:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC))
Because after it is cooked, you pull it apart.38.112.225.84 16:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
But that should be called pullable pork, or pull-apartable pork. Calling it pulled pork implies some kind of pulling has already taken place. Bob Stein - VisiBone 23:44, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- well, you pull it before serving. It's like popped corn rather than popping corn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 02:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Worldview & Merge
editPulled pork is not at all unique to North Carolina. Memphis pulled pork is common in the United States, the Philippines have Lechon pulled pork, South Africa has a variety of pulled pork, etc. Added {worldview}.Toddstreat1 17:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Although you were correct in listing North Carolina and Memphis as having their own versions of Pulled Pork (Pulled Pork as a dish, not an ingredient - the ingredient would correctly be described as "shredded pork"), the Philippine dish is not "Lechon pulled pork", it is simply Lechon. Lechon contains shredded pork as an ingredient. "Pulled Pork" is an unique term that originated in the US for a dish that originated in the US, which also uses shredded pork as its main ingredient. 71.112.240.217 (talk) 14:49, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
It seems this is currently an attempt to describe North Carolina BBQ. If it's going to describe pulled pork, it needs to encompass much more. Either way, perhaps this would be better documented in the Regional variations of barbecue article. Toddstreat1 16:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
I concur with the very North Carolina-centric writing of the article, and though the concept of Pulled Pork is often associated with Southern Barbecue (About.com's Article is a great example) there are certainly other cultures who also use this method of preperation. Adding to the Philippine and South African references, Mexico (especially around Guadalajara) also enjoys pulled pork dishes. I will see what I can add to this page sometime soon, those darn north carolinians have hijacked all of the Barbecue articles. :P --Coldbourne 22:00, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- I just heard the term "pulled pork" for the first time tonight on TV. When I looked it up on the internet many pictures look very much like what I know as "tinga" from Mexico. — Hippietrail (talk) 12:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- The term is actually "Pulled Pork" and is a unique southern US dish that uses shredded barbecued pork shoulder. Tinga is a unique dish that originated in Mexico. They are not the same thing. Attempts to merge them and other dishes that happen to use shredded pork in this article are inaccurate and represent confusion on the part of any editor that would do so. 71.112.240.217 (talk) 12:39, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
The article now contains no mention of North Carolina, or any other regional or ethnic cuisines. This is disconcerting. Was this article scrubbed by the Wonder Bread Police? HuntClubJoe (talk) 19:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Is Porchetta really similar to pulled pork, why is it in the article?
editPerhaps a wikipedia pork project is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo8rge (talk • contribs) 02:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think if the article is going to refer to porchetta at all, it must be made clear that porchetta is completely different in cooking style, texture, taste and serving style. The article should note clearly that it is a completely different dish that bears no relationship or similarities to pulled pork in any way at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.184.161 (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Why is porchetta "sometimes [when?] referred to as Italian pulled pork" if it's not pulled? Is ropa vieja related to pulled pork?--88.73.4.132 (talk) 14:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Never heard of Porchetta referred to as "Italian Pulled Pork" and no, Ropa Vieja is its own unique dish and is not "related to" Pulled Pork. 71.112.240.217 (talk) 13:46, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
Pulled pork
editI spent money buying this product only to find curry sauce was added not sweet barbecue. Im a person who suffers diabetes not funny you makers of . Tina Brooker 78.86.136.227 (talk) 18:40, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Saucing
editThis article states: "The meat is then shredded manually and mixed with a sauce." While in some areas the pork is mixed with sauce, in others the pulled pork is topped with sauce or served with the sauce on the side to allow the diner to decide how much sauce to use. We actually prefer the latter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:380:63E0:5528:5765:6653:451F (talk) 21:58, 2 March 2023 (UTC)