Talk:Punjabi script

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Rana Zubair Punjabi in topic Queries

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if there is any problem with this page, please tell here on talk page— Preceding unsigned comment added by Punjabi Post (talkcontribs)

Hello, and thanks for creating the article. The only reference you've cited so far that mention this new script is the one from the blog punjabialphabets.blogspot.com, and blogs are not considered WP:Reliable sources on Wikipedia. Can you find any reliable sources that support its WP:Notability for inclusion in an enyclopaedia? Any language is fine, so long as it's a reliable source. Flapjacktastic (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

It looks to me that this is just the Saraiki alphabet, with the idea that Saraiki is a dialect of Punjabi so we should rename the alphabet to "Punjabi". Even if we decide to treat Saraiki that way (I don't know if we should, but there have been arguments about this before), an alphabet designed for Saraiki is hardly "the" Punjabi alphabet. Also, per Wikipedia parlance, a "script" is a writing system. The only Punjabi script is Gurmukhi. What's described here is not a script of its own, but the Arabic script applied to Punjabi/Saraiki. So even if it were generically Punjabi rather than specifically Saraiki, it would still be a Punjabi alphabet and we'd need an actual name for it. Maybe it's supposed to be a pan-Punjabi alphabet, covering Saraiki as well as Standard Punjabi and other varieties? — kwami (talk) 09:55, 5 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sir for your information, there are only 30 million punjabis who uses Gurmukhi but, 100 million in pakistan uses Arabic script Shahmukhi. if you say punjabi should have only one script than 100 million are more than 30 million. And Punjabi script is diiferent from saraiki because saraiki have only 4 special character and punjabi script have 8 special character.
Punjabi script was developed to write all punjabi dialects and voices because shahmukhi only writes majhi dialect easily, so Punjabi Alphabet with eight 8 special characters was developed write all Punjabi.
here is omniglot link
http://www.omniglot.com/conscripts/punjabi.htm rana (talk) 08:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Finally, an answer to my question!
Numbers are irrelevant. AFAIK, there is only one Punjabi script, which is Gurmukhi. Shahmukhi is Arabic script.
Since Shahmukhi has been extended to other varieties than just standard Punjabi, or even Siraiki, I'd think the obvious solution is to create a section for the additional letters at Shahmukhi. I doubt it's worth creating a separate article for "Extensions to Shahmukhi". If people want to create separate articles for the Hindko etc. alphabets, that would be fine, but "Punjabi script" is an incoherent concept. — kwami (talk) 20:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

Ah, there are just 6 additional letters. ݢ, which you counted twice, isn't a separate letter, just a graphic variant of گ. — kwami (talk)

Sir, it may be. but i case of Punjabi,it is entirely different i will explain in an example, i two major dialects of Punjabi, one sayd 'mainu' and other one says 'maiku', in punjabi these words are different but meaning is same "Us", so the word ݢ is used as entire different character to write these Alphabets in same word. I request you to create a page 'Punjabi Alphabet' for these alphabets, as it is known is pakistan and its official name in pakistan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rana Zubair Punjabi (talkcontribs) 06:47, 7 April 2019 (UTC)Reply