Talk:Qatayef

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Kunafa and Qatayef are just as Egyptian as they are Shami

I have read articles that place the origins of these desserts in the kitchens of the Fatimids and of Sultan Saladin in Egypt. I have also seen articles that place them in Halab and others that place them in Ottoman Turkey or even Ottoman Greece. Until someone provides factual evidence as to where these desserts were originally developed, any chronological reference in the article is unjustified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.124.102 (talk) 02:56, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I can accept Fatmid, as the source says. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 11:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Qata'if / Qatayef

Are "Qatayef" and "Qata'if" the same thing? If so, can someone maybe mention this early in this article? Or at least take a second to make a new entry for "Qata'if" consisting of just this one line:
#REDIRECT [[Qatayef]]
...pretty please? Sean M. Burke (talk) 08:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Kadaif is not Qatayef

Qatayef it's dumplings stuffed with cheese. Kaddif is a flat cake with "Kadaif Noodles" or "semolina". Garagarage1979 (talk) 07:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Unreliable sources

@Spudlace: Can you explain why you deleted references in this diff? The sources you deleted are, afaict, reliable. ImTheIP (talk) 00:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Amira's pantry is a blog that advertises Amazon products. Thisweekinpalestine is a self-described promotional source to "promote" palestine (that is different from a respected advocacy organization like HRW). It is not a good sign for reliability when typos like "ngredients" are not fixed. I would not consider these to be reliable sources by Wikipedia's standards.Spudlace (talk) 01:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Global voices was recently discussed on RSN and found to be reliable. This Week in Palestine is a monthly magazine that has been in print since 1998. I'm fairly sure they are both RS. Amira's pantry is indeed a recipes blog. The site looks professional to me though. ImTheIP (talk) 01:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh right, global voices. I don't think a discussion of three participants means that it was found to be reliable. We can discuss it again, if you want. I find points of agreement with both sides, there is a UGC feel to the blog posts (like the one cited in this article), but they may have better, more reliable content as well. However, I don't think it was reliable the way it was used in this article. Mauritania is in the Arab World and it's not known for this dish. What are the other citations for? If they are just spam they should be removed. Spudlace (talk) 01:41, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

GlobalVoices was found to be generally reliable on RSN, but it may be more productive to discuss the claim in question than to restart that process. There are other sources that claim that Qatayef is eaten across the Arab world; [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6]. Do you have sources that indicate that its spread is limited to the Levant and Egypt?

Amira's pantry was the only source for the lead sentence so it should stay until a stronger source can be found. The claim the source supports is anyway not controversial.

This Week in Palestine was used to support the "Preparation" paragraph. The source that is left is much weaker. ImTheIP (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Even the source you cited says "Al Qatayef is one of the famous Arab sweets, which is considered to be associated with Ramadan. And spread mainly in the Levant". Spudlace (talk) 13:02, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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Edits

I have made minor edits for concision and flow -- combining sentences that are short and go together, adding commas, etc Dulce0041 (talk) 18:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)