Talk:Quantum Leap (1989 TV series)

Requested move 21 May 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Too soon to judge whether the new show is a meaningful competitor of the older show for primary topic. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:30, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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Quantum Leap → Quantum Leap (1989 TV series) – A brand new television series of the same title is scheduled to premiere on NBC this Fall. AdamDeanHall (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

• Wait Yes, NBC has slotted the new show in for this fall, but we have very little information about the new show beyond showrunners and stars. It's also not 100% clear if the new show will simply be "Quantum Leap" or something with a subtitle or the like. Also, its not sure if this new show will have a significant impact. If its a show cancelled mid-season, for example, I see no reason to move the original show off the title. Even now, the 1989 show has far more recognition than the new series. --Masem (t) 14:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. -- Vaulter 14:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose - per WP:TOOSOON, WP:CRYSTAL. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. -- Netoholic @ 07:28, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. In addition to agreeing with the WP:TOOSOON argument that there is not enough cited content to warrant a separate article as this time, I am reminded about something like the 2019 limited series revival of Mad About You: primary content of that 12-episode limited run was merged back into the main article instead of creating a separate Mad About You (2019 TV series) page. If eventually there is enough content to warrant a split like Dallas (1978 TV series) and its revival Dallas (2012 TV series), then yes, but not for Quantum Leap yet. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:01, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The Magnum, P.I. revival lasted four seasons, and even then it wasn't enough to dislodge the original as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. So I do not anticipate the same happening here. Nohomersryan (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:TOOSOON to determine whether it will be an equivalent primary topic. The original show had a very large impact. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:32, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:TOOSOON. Aoba47 (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose no point to do this at this point of time. When new show has its own article, hatnotes would suffice, and can consider including dabs for both at that point in time. WikiVirusC^(talk) 01:29, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed split into Quantum Leap (2022 TV series)

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I'm closing this discussion now, since the move for the new show article is now complete. QuasyBoy (talk) 02:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

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The new show premieres in less than a month (September 19, to be exact). With the little information we know about the show right now, a stub article should be sufficient for now, with more info added later until the show's premiere. QuasyBoy (talk) 00:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

A draft article has now been created for the possible move: Draft:Quantum Leap (2022 TV series). QuasyBoy (talk) 00:58, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support since we have a premiere date. --Masem (t) 01:30, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
• Comment perhaps this article should also be split, into a franchise article and an 1989 TV show article. The franchise article would include the ancillary media (comics, novels, books, proposed film sequels). The character list article would be for the franchise, while each TV show gets separate episode list articles -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 11:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support the new show should absolutely have its own page to maintain the two shows as completely separate entities. Ckruschke (talk) 17:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Ckruschke
• Support Two articles for two separate TV shows. This article should also remove any reference to the new show being “season 6”. I did remove them but they were re-inserted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7E:B67:D300:F0B8:4532:C7D2:3E7D (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
• Wait We are only 5 days from the premier - there's no rush. Let's wait until it airs, and see if that changes any perspectives. Nfitz (talk) 20:21, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support. The new series—and it is clearly a series distinct from the original, not just a sixth season of it—merits its own article. Also support the idea to create a franchise article. The section “Other media” could be moved there. – Quick and Dirty User Account (talk) 12:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 22 February 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 02:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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• Quantum Leap → Quantum Leap (1989 TV series)
• Quantum leap (disambiguation) → Quantum leap

– Please note the lowercase 'l' in the second suggested move. The current hatnote on the article about the 1989 TV show illustrates the confusion. The article about the 2022 TV series is about twice as popular with readers as the article about the 1989 TV series, despite the other show being positioned as a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Moreover, the 1989 TV series was named after the much more widely known concept of a quantum jump or atomic electron transition in physics, which is a topic with far greater long-term notability. "Quantum leap" with a lowercase 'l' is currently redirected to the 1989 TV series, which seems particularly absurd, since the lowercase term is obviously not the proper formatting of a TV show title. The general idea of a sudden change (e.g. a paradigm shift) is also commonly called a "quantum leap", again derived loosely from the meaning in physics, as noted in the hatnote as well. I questioned the lowercase redirect twelve years ago on the redirect's Talk page, and I continue to think that a quantum leap (lowercase 'l') should not have a 35-year-old TV show as its presumed primary topic. Both TV shows should properly have uppercase, not lowercase, titles. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support still feel that given the scientific term is not the primary one for that phenomena, that the original TV show would have PRIMARYTOPIC, but as the new show has shown strong staying power, both shows are now relatively equal in considering PRIMARYTOPIC, and it would be better to have the topic search land on the disambiguation page. Note that I think you need to add a new redirect "Quantum Leap" that redirects to the resulting "Quantum leap" page. Masem (t) 23:28, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support first, oppose second. Since the two series are not unrelated, with the second expressly being set as a later continuation of events in the first, the base page name should be a broad concept article on the franchise, the common aspects of the shows, and the various other media produced (notably books and comics). BD2412 T 01:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

  Two works do not make a franchise - the rule is generally 3 or more. And while I know there are QL novels, they are all presently non-notable on their own and tied to the first series, so should be covered there. The few common elements between the two shows are very weak even though they share continuity. Masem (t) 01:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

  Also, a franchise article would use a capital 'L'. Neither of the moves I am proposing would conflict with that. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support. The 2022 series averaged double the pageviews of the 1989 series last year and even more this year[1], so the original series is no longer the primary topic. (No objection to making Quantum Leap a broad concept article if someone wants to write one, but until then Quantum Leap should be the dab page or redirect to the dab page.) Station1 (talk) 07:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• I don't really have an opinion about the TV series, but the scientific meanings need to be available in a disambiguation page at quantum leap, because I was astonished to find out that they weren't, in favor of pop culture topics that can't have significantly higher long-term significance. This hatnote we have right now is just unwieldy for navigation. The history of the redirect and Talk:Quantum leap also indicates a lack of proper consensus, this is just weird. Google Books Ngrams indicates the use of the term is clearly not strictly correlated with the TV series. (Support #2) --Joy (talk) 08:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support both per nom. Dicklyon (talk) 03:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support. The original TV series is primary among the two TV series, but there is no primary topic overall. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
• Weak Indifference I once supported the idea that the redirect "Quantum leap" should be directed to this article, but.as that was before there were two separate series that use the same name, it may be more appropriate to change the redirect to a disambiguation page. Although I reject the premise that the new show is more popular than the old show. Recentism is the most likely reason why the new show has more page views. I suggest that if the redirect is changed, that we can review this page move in a few years, to see if the page views are the same or if they have changed.--JOJ ^Hutton 15:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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