Talk:Quarter days

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Aerchasúr in topic Quarter days

Errors re Ireland

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First paragraph is incorrect because these days are British, not Irish. Suggest removing the words "and Irish". (Re WikiProject United Kingdom: only Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom.)

"In Ireland" section has no references to substantiate it and errors of fact. Ireland was not entirely Christianized in the 5th century, the holidays never really stopped being observed, the quarter days are Irish (based on Irish deities), not 'Celtic', though some other Celtic cultures have similar ones, and as far as now being called "cross-quarter days since they fall halfway into each of the English quarters," it would be good to make clear who calls them that. Wiccans? Wicca is a religion originating in Britain, possibly in the 19th century, and becoming widespread in the 20th. It does not seem to apply to Ireland. --Galliv (talk) 06:09, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Move page

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Proposition to move Quarter days to Quarter day for symmetry with Cross-quarter day. The singular is also easier to link to, because it's easier to write [[Quarter day]]s than to write [[Quarter days|quarter day]]. --gwc 07:45, 26 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merge Quarter days and Scottish term days

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Duplicate content, with the Scottish section in Quarter days containing much of the Scottish term days content, although not in as much depth.

A merged, and cleaned up, article would be of much more worth. Thanks/wangi 16:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose Quarter days is not the most commonly used expression for these holy days in Scotland.--Mais oui! 17:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
    • Comment: The term would of course still be used as a redirect, the term would of course still be bolded in this article. It is clear from this article that we are talking about essentially the same subject and indeed the Scottish term days article goes into greater depth than the Scottish info on this page, but it is the same information. The term is largely archaic too. Consider WP:MM: "There are two or more articles on related subjects that have a large overlap. Wikipedia is not a dictionary; there doesn't need to be a separate entry for every concept in the universe. For example, "Flammable" and "Non-flammable" can both be explained in an article on Flammability.. Thanks/wangi 21:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
    • Comment: No - there is sufficient difference between quarter days and the Scottish term days to justify separate articles. In the absence of a good majority to merge, then the status quo should prevail. Arcturus 00:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose These days are quite distinct from the English quarter days. They merit an article in their own right. Arcturus 18:54, 9 November 2005 (UTC)Reply
    • Comment: They are clearly quite similar, indeed near identical except for terminology... Thanks/wangi
    • Comment: Oh, plus this page isn't for the English quarter days, it's for quarter days in general. Note the Irish, Welsh and Scottish content. Thanks/wangi 21:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC).Reply
  • Oppose - and I'm sure if someone proposed the merger in the other direction (suggesting that quarter days are 'just another name for' term days) it would not even be discussed. So, use the correct 'term' for each, keepthem as separate, and link between them. Principle of least surprise. Grouping everything under whatever term England uses is not needed. Pulling the shorter term day info from quarter days and linking tothe better article would be useful, however. --Nantonos 10:40, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Cleanup

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Tidied article, added headings, slight reorg. Removed cleanup template as I believe it's now cleaned up :) --Bookgrrl 01:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ember Days

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Is there any connection to the Ember Days? Rojomoke (talk) 13:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Old solar calendar

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I'm sorry I can't attribute the information on the solar calendar better. I read it several years ago in an Old Farmers' Almanac magazine which I have since lost, so I fully trust the information.

This division of the year is very ancient, perhaps predating the Celtic paganism which leads many Christians to avoid celebrating Halloween (the old Celtic cross-quarter holiday Samhain). It is alluded to in the Bible, in the Flood account, in Genesis 8.22, which by all accounts is older than Celtic civilization. "While the earth continues to exist, planting time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, and day and night will not cease." Alfarero (talk) 04:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

New Quarter Days (for some purposes)

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[1] -- this is for crown properties, but gives the quarter days as April 1, etc. [2] gives the same dates calling them 'Modern Quarter Days'.

Error in article Scottish Term Days

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In the article Scottish Term Days, it says that in the late 1700's, the date May 15 (gregorian) was the same as May 26 (julian).

This is backwards. In fact at that time the date May 15 (julian) was the same as May 26 (gregorian).

4.243.209.92 (talk) 15:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Robert DouglassReply

Discussion moved to Talk:Scottish term days. Fuzzypeg 01:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Quarter days

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The evidence for the quarter days and especially the Irish ones are very weak. Its basically based on a 2-3 sentences in a few sources like the Tain. I think the article should be more sceptical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aerchasúr (talkcontribs) 21:09, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply