Talk:Queen

Revision by Consequentially

User:Consequentially, you have summarised your recent revision of this page as "formatting, shuffled things 'round a bit". You have done substantially more than that: specifically, you have deleted substantial parts of the item. You may have 'good' reasons for having done that, but please do not 'hide' the fact by omitting it from your summary, and please provide explanations on the Talk page as appropriate.

Amongst other things, I note that you have deleted the section referring to other monarchs. As you will see from the history, I specifically added that only 10 days ago and summarised as "added section Monarchs to make less UK specific". I felt it inappropriate to single out the UK Queen for special mention while ignoring all other female monarchs (especially living ones), but did not have time to list them all; indeed it may not be appropriate to list them all here if there are suitable lists elsewhere. I have therefore reinstated this section.

Why delete Queen (album)? "Articles with a clarifier in parentheses" are primary candidates for inclusion in disambig. pages as indicated in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages).

Why delete some "Queens" items but leave others?

Why delete the "See also" section? Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) specifically states:

"There may be a "see also" section for similar terms which may be confused, misspellings, and the like, but don't use "see also" for any legitimate use of the main title word."

When tidying a disambig page, please ensure that the links do not point to Redirect pages. I have also amended the red links so that they point to current articles.

I have now further cleaned up the page, reinstating links to related terms, and other pertinent links deleted by Consequentially. TrevorD 13:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

As much as I'd like to write this off as a learning experience, I understand that I took the Be Bold mantra a bit to far. I agree with the changes you reverted, and, after reading your explanations, have come to see the changes as reckless. Honestly, I only figured out how to read past updates after looking at the revision history for this page, so my removing your reference was mostly ignorance. I appreciate you being tolerant of newbie mistakes, and explaining things out for me so I'll stand less a chance of making them again in the future. Consequentially 01:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Effeminate homosexual

Queen (noun ~ NOW'EN): A flamboyant homosexual, usually male, always FABULOUS. JayKeaton 00:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Drag queen. --Helium4 (talk) 07:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation or queen regnant?

should this be a disambiguation page? shouldn't it rather go to queen 'regnant'--Godal 22:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I've just gone through the what links here, and ignoring user pages the vast majority needed changing to [[Queen (band|Queen]]. Also historically there have probably been more queen consorts than Queen regnants, so I suggest leaving this as a disambig page. Jonathan Cardy (talk) 12:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Borg queen

I have a strange feeling that possibly the Borg queen article must be added to this disambiguation page. She was a primary antagionist in Star Trek: First Contact as well as Star Trek: VOY--Megamanfan3 (talk) 13:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

There is no Borg Queen article, it is currently a redirect. Even if it were an article, it would not qualify for inclusion under the Partial title rule. MickMacNee (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Queen of pop etc

Queen is also used to refer to a woman or homosexual man who is at the top of their profession or the best at something, for example, Madonna is often referred to as the queen of pop. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the article could perhaps use a See also link to Honorific nicknames in popular music. --2001:1C06:19CA:D600:D083:16D9:8D1F:9C3A (talk) 04:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Problems

The band and their album are listed twice. People named Queen (e.g., Ellery Queen) are not listed or referenced. Ma^t_chups 17:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not moved) Mike Cline (talk) 18:49, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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Queen → Queen (disambiguation) – Queen should redirect to Monarch, just as King does, as this is clearly the primary topic for this word. The band and the insect behavior are mere runners-up. Ego White Tray (talk) 02:33, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Oppose. Page views for Monarch in the last 3 months 94439. Page views for the band 1071409. No evidence that Monarch is the primary topic. Tassedethe (talk) 03:35, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Support. Pageviews are not the only way to measure primacy; as with Apple, sometimes the common noun is the primary topic regardless of pageviews. Powers ^T 19:11, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Support, per Powers ^T. Freddie Mercury's band may be better known in English-speaking countries for now, but that's partially because the name of the group is the same in all languages whereas the concept embodied by the common noun would be translated into local languages, and over time & space, the monarch-related concept is more universal in scope. Yet since there have been far more queens who were consorts than monarchs, the latter isn't a satisfactory redirect. FactStraight (talk) 19:34, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Please clarify - are you saying that Queen consort is a better target than monarch? Ego White Tray (talk) 03:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

No, I'd prefer this move request in order to acknowledge that the concept relating to royalty -- "the highest ranking female in some hereditary hierarchichal societies, usually called kingdoms" -- is primary topic, most other usages being derivative, deserving of mention in the main article space with links to articles elaborating the variations: A "queen-bee" is not called such arbitrarily, but because her function matches the overall concept (one could probably even make that case for the rationale behind the band's choice of name). FactStraight (talk) 17:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose – the current Queen disambiguation page makes more sense than assuming someone is looking for Monarch. Dicklyon (talk) 05:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support. Clear case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as far as I can see. Of course the primary meaning of "queen" is a female monarch. Page views are irrelevant and misleading, as most people aren't going to use Wikipedia to look up the meaning of "queen", but that doesn't mean it's not primary. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose. The term is obviously ambiguous in common usage and a disambiguation page is appropriate. older ≠ wiser 12:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
• Oppose because even within royalty there is the substantial non-monarch meaning of Queen consort, as well as more minor alternatives. PamD 13:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
• Support per WP:MOSDAB and WP:CONCEPTDAB
• Oppose - Ambiguous term, usage varies also according to different regions of the world. "The Queen" would refer to one's "own" monarch (or consort), if there is one, otherwise it's ambiguous also. "Queen" as a stand alone "word", outside of context means different things to different people, based on point of view, and there is no "world-wide" all encompassing use.--MrBoire (talk) 21:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
  • That's a rather extraordinary claim, that people using the word "queen" without context are likely to mean something other than the plain meaning of the term. Powers ^T 01:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
    • In places without a reigning female monarch, the "plain meaning of the term" is as likely to be Queen, Queen, or Queen as anything. I.e, the term is "plain"ly ambiguous. older ≠ wiser 02:24, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
      • I disagree; those uses would seem to be primary only in certain contexts or cultures. Like if you're in Cupertino and start talking about Apples... yet the fruit is still the primary topic. Powers ^T 19:48, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

big gas tank truck semitrailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkWeZ1YPI88 Worker killed while venting tanker (title), in the first seconds of video the semitrailers or the tanks on them (?) are named "queens". Possibly only the extraordinary size of the tanks is described by "queen".--Helium4 (talk) 08:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

King and Queen pages

I started at discussion at the politics page about ideas about creating uniform king and queen pages.--CaroleHenson (talk) 18:03, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Queen Mother

The article says "Queen mother, the mother of a monarch" This is an incorrect definition. A monarch's mother is not automatically the Queen Mother, unless she is a Queen Dowager, previously Queen Consort. For example, Victoria's mother was never married to a king, and was thus not the Queen Mother. I think we should change it. I changed it, but someone instantly reverted it. I think the reversion is wrong. We should have a more accurate definition. Pete 14:12, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit request

Please add entries for

• drag queen, which has the very common short form "queen"

and a see also to

• Queen-mother (disambiguation)

-- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 21:33, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

English

Queen Siyamthanda Shabangu Born 5 April 2011 She is a traditional doctor that know as Nkonjan here mother is Nomhle Melody born in 16 July 1994 She has three children the fast born Is Queen here father is Arick Shabangu born in 1982 he is traditional doctor too 41.121.105.205 (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2023 (UTC)