Talk:Quintin Johnstone

Justus S. Hotchkiss Professor Emeritus of Law

Does the title of the professorship include "emeritus"? It would be a bit strange, but it's possible. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 08:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

See the Yale Alumni and UChicago source — both include the term, and most of the other sources include it aswell. It didn't originally have the Emeritus tag on it — that was added when Johnstone became an emeritus professor, so they just added it onto the title. GuardianH (talk) 18:19, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the background info. The formulation is a bit strange, then. To say he "served as emeritus" is a contradiction, since an emeritus no longer serves (emeritus = retired). -- Melchior2006 (talk) 19:08, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: FormalDude (talk · contribs) 05:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   MOS compliant.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   Excellent reference presentation.

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   Citations are from reliable sources. Passes spot check for verifiability.

   c. (OR):

   None apparent.

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

   None apparent.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   Lacks comprehensiveness, but is sufficient per availability of sources on the topic.

   b. (focused):

   Nothing undue, stays within scope.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   No edit wars or content disputes, overall stable.

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   Image has a valid non-free use rationale.

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail: ✓ Pass

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

Comments

I'll leave comments here and update the criteria above as we go. ––FormalDude (talk) 05:29, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@FormalDude I've done points 1 and 5. For point 2, I think the comma is grammatically correct — at least in the United States. Regarding point 3, unfortunately Johnstone doesn't say much in the source other than the fact that his view of professors from nearby UChicago made an academic career "something I found appealing". Regarding point 4, I deliberately kept it one sentence so as to prevent starting sentences with "He" or "Johnstone" too much; the repetition is painful to read after awhile. GuardianH (talk) 06:14, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

@GuardianH: I'm fairly certain the second comma is not needed, but it's a minor enough discrepancy that it doesn't matter for GA. Adding more comments below. ––FormalDude (talk) 15:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@FormalDude The three classes detail is in the WaPo source [1] GuardianH (talk) 18:33, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@FormalDude Anita Hill never became a Justice, so I've just switched it around to specify only Thomas. I've also added a link to Ethiopians. GuardianH (talk) 01:36, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

• Remove two instances of duplicate wikilinks to Yale Law School, first in the lede, then in the body.
• Johnstone was born in Chicago, Illinois, on March 29, 1915 – Remove comma.
• Due to the close proximity of his home to the University of Chicago, he became acquainted with professors who inspired him to enter academia. – Can you expand on this? Other reasons that lead to his acquaintances and what the acquaintanceships looked like?
• Johnstone matriculated at the university, where he obtained his Bachelor of Arts and served as co-captain of the track team,[6] then attended the University of Chicago Law School, graduating with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree. – Split into two sentences with new sentence beginning after "track team".
• Add a wikilink to Doctor of Juridical Science.
• Consider wikilinking Ethiopians.
• Change future-Justice to "future Justices".
• Reference spot checks
  • https://ylr.law.yale.edu/pdfs/v62-1/W15-features-quintin-johnstone.pdf – Reliable, verifies multiple career milestones. Y
  • https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/09/09/despite-achievement-thomas-felt-isolated/fa807e3d-4664-4ea4-a170-c52070850894/ – Reliable, verifies the quote about Thomas. Y
  • https://digitalcommons.nyls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1180&context=newspapers – Reliable and verifies everything except that Johnstone taught Thomas in three classes. Unless I'm mistaken, all I see is that Johnstone said Thomas "did a long writing piece for me and attended a small seminar of mine." Y
  • https://ylr.law.yale.edu/pdfs/v62-1/W15-features-quintin-johnstone.pdf Reliable and verifies family info. Y
  • https://law.yale.edu/yls-today/news/memorial-service-professor-quintin-johnstone-51-jsd-set-november-9 Reliable and verifies quote from Post. Y

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that American legal scholar Quintin Johnstone advocated for giving control of the American-governed Haile Selassie I University Law School to native Ethiopians? Source: https://www.repository.law.indiana.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1795&context=facpub (among other sources in the article)
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  • Comment: Johnstone was — and remains — a relatively obscure legal scholar. He nonetheless led a distinguished career in being dean of the first law school in Ethiopia, where his philosophy is demonstrated in this DYK, and also taught Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill at Yale. As of the time of writing, I have gotten the article to GA status and it passed today.

Improved to Good Article status by GuardianH (talk). Self-nominated at 20:38, 16 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Quintin Johnstone; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• New GA status verified. Long enough and properly sourced. Nominator appears to have only three prior DYKs; QPQ not required. Earwig found strong similarities but all appear to be either proper noun phrases or properly marked quotes. Interesting hook with verified source. I repeated a footnote on the hook sentence in the article to comply with GNG rules. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:34, 22 July 2023 (UTC)