Talk:Równia pod Śnieżką

Requested move 7 March 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 16:51, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Równia pod Śnieżką → Sněžka Plateau
• Przełęcz Karkonoska → Giant Mountains Pass
• Czeskie Kamienie → Czech Stones

– Per Wikipedia:UE - The choice between anglicized and local spellings should follow English-language usage, e.g. the non-anglicized titles Besançon, Søren Kierkegaard, and Göttingen are used because they predominate in English-language reliable sources, whereas for the same reason the anglicized title forms Nuremberg, delicatessen, and Florence are used (as opposed to Nürnberg, Delikatessen, and Firenze, respectively). In case of these articles, there are too few reliable English sources about the subject to establish consistent use of Polish names in English.

The following policy from Wikipedia:UE, which specifically refers to geographical objects and structures, applies here instead: For lesser known geographical objects or structures with few reliable English sources, follow the translation convention, if any, used for well known objects or structures of the same type e.g. because Rheintal and Moseltal are translated Rhine Valley and Moselle Valley, it makes sense to translate lesser known valley names in the same way.

Therefore, I propose moving the articles to their English-name equivalents. Max19582 (talk) 08:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. "... should follow English-language usage..." No sources were submitted. These are fan translations, none of these names are used in English sources. Przełęcz Karkonoska is sometimes called Karkonosze Pass (for example Lonely Planet), but the name does not seem to me to be very rooted in English sources. Sněžka Plateau – google didn't find a different result than the one on the wiki. Czech Stones is a nonsensical name if only because the literal translation is Bohemian Stones. Nothing like that is used and it is not even obvious why the Polish version of the name is translated and not the Czech one. FromCzech (talk) 08:39, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

@FromCzech: For lesser known geographical objects or structures with few reliable English sources, follow the translation convention If you have reliable sources that showcase the Polish names being predominantly used in English, feel free to provide them. Otherwise we should follow the translation convention.

If you have any better translations, feel free to suggest them. As for translating Czeskie Kamienie, I'm fine with both translating it as "Bohemian Stones", as well as translating the Czech variant instead. We may also name the article something along the lines of "[x] and [y] Stones" since I see you merged the article with Śląskie Kamienie. Max19582 (talk) 08:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Although I do agree for Równia pod Śnieżką specifically to after all use the Polish name. I found some relevant sources, such as [1] or [2]. Max19582 (talk) 09:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Any translation of Czeskie Kamienie is wrong and unintuitive for the user, because it is not a naming of stones, but a naming of a mountain. FromCzech (talk) 09:22, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

• oppose per WP:USENATIVE—blindlynx 17:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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