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Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 13:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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An aerial performance of Regine Velasquez at the R2K concert

Created by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:56, 15 May 2022 (UTC).

  •   The article is new enough, has no unsourced claims or any issues otherwise, AGF about the Tagalog source and video. I do think the hook could be shorter so I would suggest ALT1.--NØ 10:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Regine Velasquez's aerial performance (pictured) during R2K: The Concert was inspired by the opening segment of Paula Abdul's Under My Spell Tour? Source: February 19, 2019. " Regine Velasquez-Alcasid looks back on her R2K concert".'Jeepney TV interview (in Tagalog) – via YouTube. 00:05 minutes in. Translation "I saw Paula Abdul’s concert and she was flying [with wires], it was at the Folk Arts Theater, and I was so impressed, so I told myself, I’ll do that too"; Long, Ernie. (August 2, 1992). Paula Abdul's show, short but spellbinding. "She began the event singing the title song to her recent hit album "Spellbound" by being pulled from beneath the stage to the top of the stage by wires"

I'm doing a re-review to let preppers know if this article is ready to be promoted:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   ALT2 approved Z1720 (talk) 15:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Copyedit request

Latest comment: 2 years ago19 comments2 people in discussion

Hey Pseud 14, doing my thing as usual here:

  • Announced in January, and held during two consecutive nights in April 2000 at the Araneta Coliseum in Quezon City, the concerts were part of Velasquez's campaign in support of her tenth studio album R2K (1999). Looking at the concert synopsis, was it just the same concert being performed twice? The subject seems to be about one concert rather an actual series. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Actually your right, I was ambivalent on whether to treat as one or not. Should just be treated as singlar then.
  • Agree with above to be treated as singular.
  • Concert synopsis: This seems too detailed, especially with all the costume changes. Unless there's something notable about costume pieces, I think those can be omitted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
  • I've made a few edits to remove the costume changes that are not necessary. But feel free to edit as you find fit.
  • In retrospect, Elvin Luciano from CNN Philippines called it "the most iconic image" of the singer, while Lo termed it a "decidedly daring or risky action". Emphasis added, wikilink removed. I'm not sure the emphasised phrase is being used correctly; what are you trying to convey by saying in retrospect? It means to look backwards (at a past event). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
  • I meant it to be a reference to the CNN source as being retrospective, since this was a description years later looking back at her career. But I agree this can be removed so it doesn't sound ambiguous, as I have also added a separate review by Lo.
  • Cited by a foreign magazine as one of the best shows in Asia in the last 25 years [...] This is closely paraphrased from the synopsis of the source video. Which magazine? As it is it comes off as promotional. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
  • I could not find the actual source, I do know it was from an article of New Strait Times, so we can probably just remove then if it comes off being promotional.
  • My bad, I meant to write duration of the shows.
  • All good, this is a miss on my part, I should have checked and opened the actual wikilink. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pseud 14 (talk • contribs)

Looking forward to your answers. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:49, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

Latest comment: 2 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion
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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 10:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)


Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

I will review this one tomorrow! --K. Peake 10:04, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

  • Pipe Araneta Center to Araneta City in the infobox   Done
  • The alternate title is not sourced anywhere in the body -- removed
  • Add a comma after tenth studio album   Done
  • The first para is only three sentences long; maybe add another notable sentence, like the one about Velasquez being nervous? -- I've added another sentence providing information on the producer/promoter and sponsors instead. Perhaps it is also notable to include it in the lead similar to other concert articles.
  • "Buttefly" → "Butterfly"   Done
  • The inspiration sentence should be the second sentence of the second para instead   Done
  • The set list including songs from her previous albums is not directly mentioned in the body's prose   Done -- I've added in the synopsis
  • "as well as covers of pop hits" → "It also featured covers of pop hits" with the pipe   Done
  • "during the shows." → "during the concert." also, this should be next to the critical reception in the third para instead   Done
  • Pipe music critics to Music journalism   Done
  • The best shows in Asia accolade(s) is not sourced   Done Removed. Forgot it was still in the lead, after I have removed it in the body from prior a copyedit

Background and development

  • Img looks good, apart from the sold out part not being sourced anywhere in prose
  • "The cover album contained remakes" → "The cover album contains remakes" with the pipe   Done
  • Wikilink music videos   Done
  • [1] is invoked too much per WP:OVERCITE; apart from the first sentence because that is non-consecutive, only cite after the fourth   Done
  • "a commercial success: it sold over" → "a commercial success, selling over"   Done
  • "in its second week of release and earned a" → "in the second week of release and earning a" also, add the organization that certified it   Done -- added music certification organization
  • "she performed in small venue tours[3] which" → "Velasquez performed in small venue tours,[3] which"   Done
  • Only invoke [6] after the second sentence   Done
  • Brian Mcknight → Brian McKnight with the wikilink   Done
  • Remove commas around Viva Concerts   Done
  • [9] should only be cited once in the sentence   Done
  • Pipe Folks Art Theater to Tanghalang Francisco Balagtas   Done
  • "big show coming up"." → "big show coming up."" per MOS:QUOTE, if this is a full sentence   Done
  • [10] should not be invoked after the first sentence of the second para; the others are fine per them being quotes and one the last sentence   Done
  • Video looks good!
  • [15] should only be invoked once in the Paul Abdul sentence   Done
  • Pipe Rajo Laurel to Laurel family (Philippines)   Done
  • [18] should only be invoked once in the two consecutive sentences solely citing this ref   Done

Concert synopsis

  • Apart from the sentence where two refs are used, [12] should only be invoked once after a group of consecutive sentences   Done
  • ""Larger than Life" before" → ""Larger than Life", before"   Done
  • "of "One Love" then went directly" → "of "One Love", transitioning directly" with the pipe per MOS:LINK2SECT and shouldn't you mention who all the songs covered are by?   Done I have attributed/mentioned the artists where possible, except for when it's a medley/mash-up, to avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE
  • Img looks good!
  • "falling out of love before" → "falling out of love, before"   Done
  • ""For the Love of You" where Velasquez" → "For the Love of You", where Velasquez"
  • [12][19] duo should only be invoked once for the first two sentences   Done
  • The third sentence should cite [19] after the comma, followed by [12] after the full-stop   Done
  • "of "Sana Maulit Mulit" before continuing" → "of "Sana Maulit Mulit", before continuing"   Done
  • Remove wikilink on pyrotechnics   Done
  • After [20], [12] should only be invoked at the end of the closing sentence   Done

Reception and recordings

  • Wikilink pyrotechnics on the quote box, also do not use double quotation marks inside other ones -- the term referred by Lo in the quote actually describes "vocal pyrotechnics" (an alternative to vocal abilities, etc). So I did not link. Also removed double quotation marks
  • "The concerts received positive responses from critics who" → "The concert was met with positive responses from critics, who"   Done
  • The second sentence of Ricky Lo's review should be put into your own words more, especially when there is a quote box from him   Done reworded this to avoid quoting the paragraph in the article
  • "began his review with" should have a comma after it if the sentence from the original source begins at this point   Done
  • "pop artist has"." → "pop artist has."" per MOS:QUOTE   Done
  • Remove wikilink on Celine Dion   Done
  • "called it "the most" → "noted "the most"   Done
  • "her costumes as "grand and lavish" while" → "Velasquez's costumes as "grand and lavish", while"   Done
  • Mention the writer instead of attributing the comments to the Manila Standard, also the speech marks are not ended   Done
  • Same as above for attribution of the Philippine Daily Inquirer comments   Done
  • "It previewed multiple snippets of" → "The film featured previews of multiple snippets of"   Done
  • [23] should only be invoked after the second of the two sentences per WP:OVERCITE   Done

Set list

  • Good

Personnel

  • Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between personnel and roles   Done

See also

  • Good

References

  • Copyvio score looks slightly high at 45.2%; cut down direct quoting from Ricky Lo in reception   Done cut down on direct quoting per reception comments above
  • For any citations that are through Google Books, add the via parameter only wikilinking on the first instance   Done
  • WP:OVERLINK of Philippine Daily Inquirer on refs 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 17 and 19   Done
  • WP:OVERLINK of Viva Concerts on ref 9   Done
  • WP:OVERLINK of The Philippine Star on refs 14, 18 and 22   Done
  • Use two separate parameters for the authors and cite last name followed by first on ref 20   Done
  • WP:OVERLINK of Vivamax on ref 23   Done
  • Good

Final comments and verdict

  • Thank you for your thorough review @Kyle Peake: I have addressed the above points and provided a few comments in blue to support changes made. Let me know if I may have missed anything or if there are items that remain unaddressed. Thanks Pseud 14 (talk) 14:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Inappropriate images

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Can someone please remove the pictures of literal sh*t posted by a guy called "scatman". And also ban the user? This is today's featured article so millions of people are seeing this????? 78.18.215.167 (talk) 13:12, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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