Talk:Perth Arena

Falling apart

The path behind the building has been closed for more than six months for "repairs". Yet nothing in the press --Thoglette (talk) 12:55, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Neutrality

Flagged as biased. The article paints a very rosy picture of a very controversial, trouble stricken project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trideceth12 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 14 October 2011 (UTC) I decided to add a couple of sections on the problems with the project... hopefully they can be expanded. Until then I suggest it remain disputed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trideceth12 (talk • contribs) 04:46, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I have modified the badly written modifications referenced above to remove the lack of neutrality in one paragraph of the original article and all of the additional controversial material that was in itself biased and unbalanced. BartBart (talk) 12:32, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Events List?

What is the generally accepted view of an events list within an Arena article? There have been some edits done by someone clearly associated with the arena so I have spent some time cleaning the article up. A lot more work still to do but I don't know what the precedence is with an 'events list'. Leave or delete?

An updated progress photo of the arena would be nice, the existing one was over year out of date so I have replaced with an artist impression. Stevo345 (talk) 10:56, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I have been planning on replacing my older photo - but since cladding is well under way it is probably best to wait the few months for it to be completed. BartBart (talk) 14:23, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Future events table removed - falls under WP:NOTDIR. Moondyne (talk) 09:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Photo

Construction pic has been added as per above request. BartBart (talk) 12:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Upcoming Events at Perth Arena - Formatting

Would it be appropriate/ possible to use some form of table to list all upcoming events? The list seems to be growing and I am concerned about the formatting of this article. It has been documented on 9 August 2012 that Jennifer Lopez 'J.Lo' will be performing at the Arena in December 2012. Would it be appropriate to add this information with citation at the end of the section before the One Direction 2013 Tour information? Still new to Wikipedia, what is the consensus here? BYEFandom (talk) 04:51, 9 August 2012 (UTC).

It would be useful to read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Generally, we don't create lists of future events, especially when they are of a mainly comercial nature - eg. concerts. (Notable exceptions including elections, astronomical events, major sporting events) Many Wikipedia articles covering concert venues do list past concert events and frequently several future events get added in without too much fuss. The significant difference is that the list is more of an historical record. To create a list or table made up solely of future events is, IMHO, outside the guidelines as it would fall foul of WP:NOTDIR and WP:ADVERTISING. Including well-sourced details within prose on the other hand, supported by reliable sources for verification, and explaining the significance of each concert event, would be more acceptable. Moondyne (talk) 07:38, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I see. That does makes sense. Thanks for not biting me. I thought at some point the information might eventually look like the list for a venue like the Hordern Pavilion. The venue hasn't officially opened yet anyway.BYEFandom (talk) 17:58, 9 August 2012 (UTC).

Largest basketball crowd

Resolved

User:HoldenV8 has asserted several times [1][2][3] that the crowd at the Wildcats game was the largest ever recorded in WA (my emphasis). I disagree [4][5], because the refs only say (with my emphasis added)

• "The record attendance figure for a Wildcats home game was 8501 when the WA team hosted the Melbourne Tigers at Burswood Dome in 2004. But the record should be smashed on Friday ..." [6]
• "The crowd of 11,562 is the biggest ever home crowd for the Wildcats in the club's 30th season" [7]

I suggest that it is either WP:OR or WP:SYN to claim that the largest Wildcat home game attendance is the largest WA attendance. Rather than WP:EDITWAR, I've tagged it as "cite needed" for now.

HoldenV8, do you have a source that explicitly says largest WA attendance?

Would other editors care to comment on the matter? Mitch Ames (talk) 13:57, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

According to the NBL - "With the match at the 12,000-seat Perth Arena already declared a sell-out, this will be the biggest crowd ever for a basketball game in Western Australia. The previous high was 8,501 at the Burswood Dome for a match between the Wildcats and Tigers in January 2004."[8] Hack (talk) 14:17, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that does the trick (as does [9]). Mitch Ames (talk) 12:26, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Music - Pink concert

24.249.93.210 added a paragraph about Pink performing at the Arena. I reverted on the grounds that it was not sufficiently notable. 24.249.93.210 has added it again, albeit with more info and refs, but I still question whether it is appropriate.

The first two paragraphs in the Music section are about notable events - first free test concert, official opening, first sell-out - so worthy of mention. However, I don't believe it is necessary to list other concerts unless there's some specific notability. Can I have some other editor's opinions on the matter please.

24.249.93.210, is there any reason why the Pink concerts are notable in the context of this article? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

I've deleted the paragraph again, in the absence of any feedback. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Naming rights change

Heads up the naming right for Perth Arena have been sold to the RAC http://www.pertharena.com.au/About_Us/Latest_News/Naming%20Rights , obviously better sourcing and logos still to come. Gnangarra 03:59, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Independent sources: [10][11]. The rename is scheduled for 1 September. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Grrr... Another sell-out of public space to commercial interests, more advertising in our faces. For all his faults, at least Colin Barnett at least wanted to keep commercial names off major state-owned public buildings such as this and Perth Stadium. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:51, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Is there a reason the article was moved? Docklands Stadium, Perth Stadium, Stadium Australia, Sydney Football Stadium, Perth Superdrome all remain at the unsponsored name. Isn't that the standard treatment? Yes you can say that the 2018-19 Wildcats will play at RAC Arena, but that is just a piped link back to the article at Perth Arena. Can't find any actual policy on this, only a no consensus to move City of Manchester Stadium to Etihad Stadium (Manchester) back in 2015 here. The-Pope (talk) 16:20, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

I think we should keep the article as "Perth Arena". (See my "Grr" post above for my self-confessed and unashamed bias on this matter.) Mitch Ames (talk) 10:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 13 October 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 09:44, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

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RAC Arena (Perth) → Perth Arena – Per convention, with examples at Talk:RAC Arena (Perth)#Naming rights change, we usually keep the unsponsored name. Mitch Ames (talk) 06:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

• Support per longstanding practice. The Drover's Wife (talk) 07:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
• Support as above. Hughesdarren (talk) 08:06, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

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