Talk:RP FLIP

Redirect Needed

Someone could perhaps redirect the term "FLoating Instrument Platform" to this page. I don't know how to do redirects yet. Kat, Queen of Typos 23:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. -FZ 00:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

More importantly, there's no mention in the article of why it's designed to flip. That strikes me as a bit of a glaring omission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.119.210 (talk) 17:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

No engines

"Because of the potential interference with the acoustic instruments, FLIP has no engines or other means of propulsion."

This seems an odd reason for having no means of propulsion. Why not simply turn the engines off when the ship has reached its destination and wants to carry out acoustic measurements? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.119.40 (talk) 01:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

It does seem odd from an engineering standpoint, but that doesn't make it a flaw in the article. Or are you requesting clarification/justification be added there? KMeyer (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:28, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm inclined to think the principal reason is just to simplify the design. It can be towed to its destination, so engines and related infrastructure are not essential. The nautical architect was free to concentrate on the Craft's mission. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.223.130.32 (talk) 01:12, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

spar buoy?

reading the article Spar buoy, it seems that this vessel is such a buoy when flipped. could someone with deeper knowledge of either topic confirm this? both articles would profit from cross-linking, this would gain some theoretical background, and that could use some visuals. --HOPAJPQTU3LC (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Move RP > RV

I have moved this from RP FLIP to RV FLIP. I hope that this is not an improper procedure. "RP" is a nonstandard ship prefix, not included in Ship prefix, and not explained in the article. It is not used by either the vessel operator Scripps Institution of Oceanography or the owner Office of Naval Research. FLIP is correctly described in the article as a Research Vessel and, if to be given a prefix, should be "RV". "RP", in "R/P" format, is used sometimes by Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution on its website - though again without any explanation of meaning. Otherwise most uses of of "RP" seem to derive from WP. Davidships (talk) 02:33, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

This should be fine, given that "RP FLIP" redirects to this name, and the other redirects should help any searcher trying to find it. ONR's page on the vessel uses R/V, but a search of the ONR website reveals many uses of R/P as well, but again, no definite explanation of the meaning that I could find, though almost certainly it means "Research Platform" (see [1] and PDF [2]). — Huntster (t @ c) 05:05, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Agree, RV is the usual prefix for a research vessel. Mjroots (talk) 11:09, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't have any paper sources that give FLIP's prefix at all. However it should, IMHO, remain as RP (Research Platform), as RV (Research Vessel) would imply that it's a "vessel", i.e. capable of making its own way. It's more of a semi-submersible platform, as for any number of oil platforms, and we don't call those vessels. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:12, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

To equate "vessel" with self-propelled is very restrictive. The expression "non-propelled vessel" is commonly used in relation to a wide range of sizeable floating objects - including dredgers, barges, even floating platforms (eg Kulluk) - by governments, shipping organisations and the media.Davidships (talk) 00:07, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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Is there a logical inconsistency here?

According to the current version of the page:

"There were overhead lights on the surfaces that were the ceilings in both the towing (horizontal) and flipped orientations."

This doesn't seem possible. When the platform is flipped by 90 degrees, ceilings (or deckheads) become bulkheads and vice versa. Can someone who is familiar with the now defunct platform comment? Dmichelson (talk) 01:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

It seems clear enough to me that there were two sets of ceilings with overhead lights (especially if not quoted in isolation). - Davidships (talk) 13:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)