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Tombola
editHalf of this entry sounds made up, especially since the use of the word 'tombola' and the very definition it links to do not match. Sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.20.103 (talk • contribs) November 18, 2007
- I'm not particularly volunteering to track down sources for this, but tombola is certainly correct, and is a common term for a small lottery at a party or fair in Italy (or among Italian-Americans). - Jmabel | Talk 23:37, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Oh, I hadn't noticed this silliness (which I've cut):
The Tombola is popularly heralded as the creation of Sussex born Thomas Bowler who worked closely with his brother-in-law, Al Seery, on the invention for his wife's, and Seery's sister's forthcoming birthday party. The success was such that Seery manufactured and sold the TomBowler at his local market stall - without applying for a patent however, his product was quickly copied and bettered and an invention that could have netted a huge sum in future profits was, essentially given to the community as open source.
- WP:BJAODN, anyone? - Jmabel | Talk 23:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
This raffle game doesn't sound like italian tombola at all, I'm editing it. For lottery there's the italian word lotteria. Lostella (talk) 13:41, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Seriously, guys, this article is a real mess. Lostella (talk) 13:44, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Reverse Raffle
editAnyone want to write about reverse raffles - of which there are several versions? --Bill.albing (talk) 15:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- I belatedly second this. I don't know what they are! 195.194.238.103 (talk) 11:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
merge w/ Chinese Auction
editI'm proposing to merge Chinese auction into this page. While the Chinese auction is given a name "auction", it is effectively multiple simultaneous raffles. (Any raffle certainly could be thought of as a kind of auction.) The Chinese auction article also describes them as being used in a similar context as raffles--generally gambling for fund-raising. It seems that adding it as one example here could flesh this article out a bit, and avoid the confusion of having its own page. Cretog8 (talk) 03:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Contradiction... prize number, attached or not?
editA: The drawn tickets are checked against a collection of prizes with numbers attached to them, and the holder of the ticket wins the prize.
B: In this manner, people are not buying tickets to win a specific prize, but for the possibility of winning any of the prizes, as the prizes do not have specific numbers attached.
I don't have any sources to back this up, but I assume this contradiction is happening because the order of events is not clear.. I assume that the numbers are not attached to the prizes until the drawing takes place. But, once the drawing takes place, there is a number attached to the prize. --70.186.144.226 (talk) 22:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Merge with lottery?
editI suggest merging this page with Lottery. I think "raffle" is typically used when a the prize is a physical item, but this could be explained with a sentence or two in the lottery article. ghouston (talk) 09:47, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
Revamp
editI have direct relevant knowledge on this. I will be refactoring and redrafting a lot this element.
I believe a raffle page merits standing separate from lottery. While they the raffle can be considered a kind of lottery, lotteries as known to many people present differenced items.
Certainly the gaming and gambling areas lack agreed common definitions and even there is not certainly a clear gaming taxonomy. Not even gaming or gambling have a common definition.
I will start, by chance, with raffles... Pedesterra (talk) 08:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Will be submitting ideas and changes through this area.
- 1.- Will deprecate some wikipedia links where I think destination needs lots of reworking. That means I will keep the links but hinting they are subject to space for improvement...
- 2.- Will reshape the introduction. Note that gambling and gaming are seen in many jurisdictions and countries as very different items. In some parts of the world gaming is acceptable while gambling not ...
- 2.- Certainly raffles have a competition angle as the link point to that. But while all in life can be seen as a Competition, this is not the most relevant angle of a raffle - competition understood as many parties striving to achive "a common goal" which cannot be shared. In a raffle main parties are organizer and participants or players, and they might or not share a common goal; in charity raffles there is a common goal - obtain money for a charity; commercial raffles might simply be a source of income for the private or the public sectors, and then there is not a single common goal: organizer to win its share, players to win the prizes. Or if you wish, raffle taking place is the common goal. On the other hand, certainly players compete against the house, but not for a common goal. And players compete against the other, but not purposefully but as a mere try to get the same resources... the prizes. Pedesterra (talk) 09:14, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Your edits are welcomed, but could you try to follow the Wikipedia manual of style and not leave the page at any point in a broken state. If you wish to note that the article is under significant rework, you could use the Under construction template. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 09:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks --Escape Orbit
- but, I am more a SME that a format knower.
- Perhaps I can add the content and you help me with the shape?
- Because I work a bit at a time, and now all my effort has gone bananas.
- I was planning to add the contents and then try to give it form.
- You call it Pedesterra (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)