Talk:Rail transport in Victoria/Station resources

Suggested layout

The way i have always envisage station articles for closed and present stations should be kept seperate, there is more then enough different sections and pieces of information to be included in each article to make it worthwhile as a stand alone article;

• The small info box with a general breakdown of information.
• Previous and next station navigation box.
• Images of the station buildings; Goods shed, platform, station building and a view of the station layout.
• Lead in paragraph.
• Breakdown of historical events at the stations, eg breakdown of eras in the stations life, opening, closing of passenger and/or freight movements as an example.
• Station layout diagrams from multiple periods of the stations existence.
• Other railway facilities that have existed within the station grounds or within a close proximity, station masters residence, signal boxes and so on.

there is more then enough ways to create an article on past and present stations, if the articles are included as a subsection of local towns it lacks the space and deters editors from making small contributions as we all did first starting out here on wikipedia. Perhaps instead of talking, arguing and being stubborn about whether the articles should exist we create some proper guidelines and a template for all station articles here! --Dan027 (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Online resources

Here are some online reliable sources for people to use.

• Looks like we have easily accessed and reliable resources for the history of at least 63 railway stations in Melbourne and Victoria - go the the http://www.environment.gov.au Australian Heritage Database - bash in 'railway station ' and state = Victoria to get them. http://www.aussieheritage.com.au/ uses the same DB but works a bit quicker - use the offical site as a reference.

• http://www.vrhistory.com/ has maps of the lines themselves at various times, as well as histories of various stations (from a railway signalling perspective) tabulated from VR weekly notices.

• Scans of VR signal diagrams are at http://signaldiagramsandphotos.com/, as does http://www.victorianrailways.net/grades/gradehome.html and http://www.victorianrailways.net/signaling/completedia/sigdialist.html.

• Scans of VR timetables from various time periods at http://www.victorianrailways.net/timetables/tthome.html

• Details of all current lines in Victoria, bar the 2 interstate ones http://www.vline.com.au/rna/rna/information_pack.html#trainoperatingdata

• Current (?) freight service timetables at http://www.vline.com.au/rna/rna/information_pack.html#freightschedules - look up the lines to see how far normally scheduled services run.

• 2002 version (but unofficial!) of above http://www.vicsig.net/freight/trains.txt - before the Pacific National hackjob.

These should help with new / expanding articles. Wongm (talk) 02:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

All of this is vaguely useful, but to create a really useful station article one will need to hit the history books and do some real-world research rather than grabbing what's already online, which is generally not all that much. Rebecca (talk) 13:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Jesus your miss sour face, i have been on wikipedia for 3 years and i cant recall ever seeing you make a positive comment towards anyone. Its a start and hes been doing a lot more then you in contributing towards the articles lately, all you do is attack the guy! --Dan027 (talk) 09:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)