Talk:Randy'L He-dow Teton

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Um, no she's not

She isn't the first person to appear on a US coin while still living. In 1921, then Alabama governor T.E. Kilby appeared on the Alabama Centennial commemorative half dollar, making him the first person to appear on a US coin while still alive. In 1926, then US president Calvin Coolidge appearead on the commemorative half dollar celebebrating the 150th anniversary of US independence; he's the second. It can be said that she is the first living person to appear on a non-commemorative coin, but she is in fact the third person to appear on a US coin while still alive. (You could say she's the first woman to appear on a US coin while still alive if you like, but she's only the third person.) I corrected the text to reflect that. 75.70.123.215 (talk) 20:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Here's the sources to back it up:

My primary source is Whitman's Official Red Book (61st edition, the 2008 one), but can also verify it using many online sources.

Thomas Kilby appeared on the Alabama Centennial half dollar commemorative in 1921, while still alive. This can be verfied using Wikipedia's own articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_centennial_half_dollar

Thomas Kilby is clearly depicted on that coin. And according to Wikipedia's article on him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kilby

He was still alive until 1943, 22 years after he appeared on the coin.

Wikipedia doesn't have an article on the Sesquicentennial (150th anniversary) of Independence half dollar yet (issued in 1926), but this link here clearly shows Calvin Coolidge depicted on it:

http://www.coincommunity.com/commemorative_histories/sesquicentennial_of_american_independence_half_dollar.asp

And according to Wikipedia's article on Coolidge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge

He was still alive until 1933, 7 years after he appeared on the coin.

Randy'L He-dow Teton is in fact the third person to appear on a US coin while still alive, as these sources show. It can be said that she is the first woman to appear on a US coin while still alive; it can also be said she is the first person to appear on a regular issue (non-commemorative) US coin while still alive, and that she's the only person still alive to appear on a US coin... if you want to edit the article to say any of those things, go ahead... but she is NOT the only person ever to have appeared on a US coin while still alive. 75.70.123.215 (talk) 21:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, she's not even the first woman to appear on a US coin while still alive. Sarah Longacre and Anna Williams come to mind but are debatable, Miss Longacre more so than Miss Williams. However, there is no argument I'm aware of about Teresa de Francisci (wife of designer Anthony) whose portrait appears on the Peace Dollar. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if a bit of digging couldn't come up with the names of more women who sat for portraits of Miss Liberty on US coinage. Nibios (talk) 07:33, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

It's kind of arguable whether you should count people who modelled as figures other than themselves. But another non-debateable appearance of a woman on a coin while she was still alive is Eunice Shriver, who appeared on the Special Olympics silver dollar commemorative in 1995 (she was still alive until August of this year). Anyway a moot point I guess as this claim has been removed from the article anyway. If you only count people who appeared as themselves, there's been 3 so far: Thomas Kirby, Calvin Coolidge, Eunice Shriver; if you count models, it's hard to count since some are debateable; in any case, Teton is definitely neither the first person nor the first woman to appear on a US coin during her own lifetime. 75.71.45.63 (talk) 16:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

What does her name mean?

The article gives two meanings for her name. I'm confused. Does it mean one, the other, or both?

"Her given middle name is He-dow, which is pronounced "He-dough" in the Shoshone language, and means Meadowlark.

He-dow is pronounced "Hi-though" in the Bannock language and means "Close to Ground."

67.169.127.166 (talk) 12:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Given that she's a member of the Shoshone tribe, I'd expect that the Shoshone definition is more relevant and the Bannock definition is just interesting. I'll leave it up to others more knowledgeable in Native American affairs to sort it out, though, as I hardly qualify. Duncan1800 (talk) 04:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)