Talk:Ranjitsinhji/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Relentlessly (talk · contribs) 19:53, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

I'll review this. Relentlessly (talk) 19:53, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

This is a pretty good article.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Some notes:

• "But discouraged by the ambition..." Starting a sentence with a conjunction is acceptable in some registers of English, but not in an encyclopaedia article.

 Done

• You use "Rajkumar College for princes" twice as if it is an official name, but you capitalise it as if "for princes" is merely a description. This needs clearing up.

 Done

"the College of princes" is still in the article unexplained. Relentlessly (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

It has been removed.

• "Macnaghten soon declared Ranjitsinhji his most accomplished and promising pupil, academically; Ranjitsinhji also established proficiency in gymnastics, tennis and cricket." This is uncited.

 Done

• "Ranjitsinhji may have initially struggled to acclimatise to English life and did not settle to academic study." This also seems to be uncited, or at least that's the impression given by the arrangement of the citations.

 Done

• " making at least nine centuries, a feat he had never previously achieved in England" Had he never achieved a century or nine centuries? Logic suggests the former, but your grammar suggests the latter.

It is the latter only.  Done

Unclear from the text, but not the end of the world. If you could supply what he had scored before, that would be excellent. Relentlessly (talk) 21:56, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

It clearly makes us understand he had previously not scored this run.

• I don't understand what relevance the Punch cartoon has to university cricket, since it's more than a decade separate.

 Done

• You use "practise" as a noun, where normal Commonwealth English use would be "practice". I'm not sure what normal Indian use would be. You use "practice" later: whatever the decision, it should be consistent.

 Done One is for noun and another for verb. The uses are correct here.

No it isn't. "Lockwood noted how much Ranjitsinhji had improved through practise". That's a noun; it should be "practice".

 Done

• "The Indian made his first-class debut" This is journalistic style, not encylopaedic. "He" is quite sufficient.

 Done

• "some more successful but brief innings" What does this mean?

Its given in source. It means, that though his innings were shprt, it greatly helped the team.  Done

• Link The University Match (cricket)

Its linked. And if the second one is linked then it will be overlinked.  Done

You're quite right: I overlooked the first instance.

• "an improbably victory" – "an improbable victory"

 Done

• "Yet it is unlikely that he met the qualification rules" Two things: first, don't start a sentence with a conjunction. Second, what were the rules?

Not required in the article.

• "Brighton's good batting pitch" Is it not Hove? Could you link the ground?

Not given in source.

Other sources, perhaps? There are only three Sussex grounds regularly used during Ranjitsinhji's career; none of them is in Brighton and the majority of matches were at the County Cricket Ground. Relentlessly (talk) 21:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

I went through other links also. The name is not given. I think it is not wise to make guesses.

• "he batted again when England followed-on 181 runs behind" This should be "he batted again when England followed on, 181 runs behind".

 Done

• "behaving as a price" – prince.

 Done

• Gilling East parish church would be an appropriate illustration, maybe?

Not required  Done

• "managed to acquire influence beyond its real status in Geneva". I don't understand what this means.

 Done , I have changed the previous but to and, making it comprehensible.

It's the word "party" that's really confusing! Political party? Cocktail party? Another word for "delegation"? Relentlessly (talk) 08:35, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done

• "Iconography" – why use this word? It seems unrelated to the section below.

 Done

Shouldn't take much to get this up to standard! On hold. Relentlessly (talk) 10:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

User:Royroydeb, there are various points still outstanding. Furthermore, could you clarify what you mean by "Not required"? Relentlessly (talk) 21:53, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

• @Sarastro1: As someone who expanded the article ten-folds, would you like to participate in the review? —Vensatry _(ping) 03:20, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Royroydeb, is anything happening with this? Relentlessly (talk) 20:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Royroydeb Several of my concerns are still not dealt with (or indeed replied to) and, as Vensatry has said, you are not a major contributor to the article. I'm on the verge of failing this. Relentlessly (talk) 12:09, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, while the rule states anyone can nominate articles for GA, it's always better to consult the major contributors. —Vensatry _(ping) 14:05, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm going to fail this article for GA. Relentlessly (talk) 12:43, 16 October 2015 (UTC)