Talk:Ransom Room

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Wassermaus in topic Was Atahualpa a giant?

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This article does not state if the room was finally filled with the gold and silver or not, and if the Spanish ended up taking the gold. It was my understanding that it was filled and then they executed the 'sun god' anyways, but I am not sure.


The "story" told in this article seems to be quite at odds with the one told in Battle of Cajamarca. Basically these two articles seem to tell two completely different stories. That suggests that one or both are wrong. According to the Cajamarca article, the events at the Ransom Room were essentially the final act. Yet this article talks about actions before the Ransom Room, which appear to be a very different telling of the Cajamarca battle. If the events described here are part of Cajamarca, which they seem to be, they need to be moved. In fact, both seem to be at odds with the version in Spanish conquest of the Inca Empire, which leads me to believe they all need serious work. Maury 23:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

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this Article here says, that Atahualpa was killed on August 29, 1533. His own Article says, he died on July 25, the spanish Article says, July 26th, the german and the italian Article says also 26th July. Where does this 29th August came from? -- Hartmann Schedel Prost 21:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Dollar Value

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Couple of concerns. First, why state the amount in 1847 dollars? Second, using an inflation calculator, the 15,500,000 seems low, at only 456,000,000. A room of those dimensions filled with gold to that height should be worth a lot more. Way, way more. The volume was 22 x 17 x 9 = 3,366. In 2010, a cubic foot of gold was worth about $19 million, so that room would be worth $67 billion.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.14.154.3 (talk) 04:22, 16 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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I know the exact location of that treasure today. The article has a great deal of credibility according to everything I have heard from independent sources. A good friend of mine was a missionary in the Andes Mountains in 1952. The indians there had put 4 arrows into a previous missionary, killing him. My friend had a droopy mustache, clothes that fit right in with their dress (floppy Gaucho hat, comfortable clothes) and was an excellent horseman. He stayed there several years. While he, himself never converted any of them to Christianity, one of the younger men found a job in a civilized city and found Christ there. When he came back, one day the native became rather mellow with my friend and began talking confidentially with what was by then his friend and fellow Christian. He said, "You know, we are the guardians of Atahualpa's treasure. Our ancestors hid it in a cave. We put poisonous snakes in the cave so that if anyone stumbles across the cave, they wont go in and find the treasure. You can tell which cave it is by walking along the ridge in the evening. If the wind is still, you can see the heat from the metal rising up from it." He went on to explain how it got there. "When Atahualpa sent out the command to collect enough gold and silver for his ransom, the messengers went out and began their collection. But the treasure was coming up short. The leaders told them to bring it anyway. But when the caravan got to the town next to where they were keeping Atahualpa, they were told that Atahualpa was already dead. So they fled for their lives across the tops of the mountains, using pack animals. We settled here." It was ironic that in 400 years that the spoken language is now Spanish. What these people do for a living is trade horses. My friend, knowing these 1000 people fairly well by then thought, "Snakes. That sounds like something they would do." That and the heat story lended credence to his friend's tale. During World War II the American Allies installed an airstrip nearby. My friend thought of taking a small plane one night and getting the treasure and going into a neighboring country to distribute the goods. But then he repented of that and changed his mind. In spite of the fact that they are keeping the treasure safe in the vain hope that the Inca Empire will rise again, and the treasure will remain hidden until the end of the Earth, it really is their treasure, as they are the last cohesive vestige of the Inca Empire. So if anyone were to go after it, they would have to be of Incan descent. And they would have to use at least some of the treasure to further the good of the Inca people. I have tried looking the place up on Google Earth, and the village is listed, but when you go there, via satellite, there is no sign of huts or an airstrip. Show me that you are of Inca descent and I'll show you where it is.

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Was Atahualpa a giant?

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“ the height of the Inca's reach, was 2.75 m (9 feet) high” (end of citation) - no comment. — Wassermaus (talk) 19:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)Reply