Talk:Rapid eye movement sleep behavior disorder/Archive 1

Is this me or does this sound like what causes sleep waking? If I am right I think it should me mentioned somewhere in this article.

Only if there is a study to show that it is and a citable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.141.120 (talk) 17:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

In some ways, your so-called "Sleep Walking" is the OPPOSITE of REM Sleep Behavior Disorder.

The former occurs mostly among teenage boys; the latter among elderly men.

More significantly, "Sleep Walking" does NOT occur when undergoing REM deep-sleep. A young man is actually, to a limited extent, awake --- and so he can see and safely maneuver amid furniture, doorways, and other obstacles.

During REM Sleep Behavior Disorder -- which I sadly have repeatedly experienced at only age 66 -- a person is STILL ASLEEP and also experiencing vivid dreams. { P.S. --- I HATE the term "dreams." This rosy / PollyAnna/ fantasy label covers far too wide a range of cerebral experiences! A millennial needs to come up with better-but-brief wordage. }

Despite being quite asleep, muscular activity during REM sleeping is somehow empowered due to the vividness of the sleeper's "dreaming" (I hate the word!). So a "dream" (a) of being maliciously assaulted or attacked, (b) of seeking to physically defend oneself, (c) of escaping/ dealing with a violent threat, or (d) of even urgent walking/ running can easily provoke a sleeper to leave his bedding.

As a result, the 100% visionless -- except for "dreaming" -- victim can fall down onto the floor or crash into nearby furniture.

During the past two years, the worst experience I and my bedroom have ever had is nearby hard-steel furniture being (twice) permanently bent out of shape (But I WON both contests!). On the other hand, I myself have suffered a severe 1.5-inch forehead bump (last week), a chest laceration (three weeks ago), a broken toe (late last year), many broken finger-nails, and countless bruises.

But my spirit, God be with me, is still strong . . .  :-)

Dr.Bastedo (talk) 23:26, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Original research is not allowed per Wikipedia policy

To be included in Wikipedia, all articles must meet notability standards and verifiability standards. Also, no original research is allowed per WP:OR. Also, any article purporting to provide information in an area of professional expertise requires a high degree of citation and reliable sources. Check these policies out. Mattisse(talk) 14:38, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence...

... or at least an actual citation.

I have removed this, adding by an anon IP in November:

"BBC Focus magazine reported in 2005 that a man who stabbed his mother-in-law to death, whilst apparently still asleep, was acquitted of her murder after doctors confirmed he had been suffering from RBD. The man apparently had no idea he was "acting out" his dream until he awoke, despite having driven miles to the house of his Mother-in-Law in the middle of the night, letting himself in with a key, eating food from her fridge before killing her and driving home afterward. This landmark ruling shows that the consequences of RBD can be severe enough to have profound effects which affect those around sufferers almost, if not more, severely."

This is pretty extraordinary stuff. If it's true, all good - I'll bet it was reported widely and we can find a cite. Until then, it doesn't belong on the main article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.173.9.90 (talk) 14:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

> This did get reported widely, and has been covered in several 'weird science" TV shows, including ones that have interviews with involved persons. I don't know the names, but if someone is willing to do the digging, the cite-able sources should be there. 97.118.20.227 (talk) 14:31, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I myself remain skeptical of the REM Behavior Disorder (RBD) explanation provided in the BBC story. Dr.Bastedo (talk) 23:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

REM sleep disorder and its link to neurodegenerative diseases

I think it would be a good idea to write an entirely separate section within this article regarding REM sleep disorder's link to neurodegenerative diseases. I've found a few articles through PsycPORT that could allow expansion of this.Regamircs042 (talk) 04:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)regamircs042

Difference?

Hello, I just want to ask, is there a difference between rapid eye movement behavior disorder and rapid eye movement motor behavior disorder? Heran et Sang'gres (talk) 02:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Psychology 101: Editing User:Nicolasa11's Contributions

The contribution: It is best to maintain a normal sleep schedule; sleep deprivaiton can increase RBD.[1]

The source was: Schutte-Rodin, Sharon. "REM Sleep Behavior Disorder". yoursleep.aasmnet.org. American Academy of Sleep Medicine. http://yoursleep.aasmnet.org/disorder.aspx?id=29. Retrieved 1 October 2011.

I couldn't find any mistakes with the contribution. It seemed to follow copy right laws, it was reworded, and the source looked reliable.

I added information from the same source, to expand upon the "treatment methods": It is best to maintain a normal sleep schedule, and avoid sleep deprivation. Do this by keeping track of any sleepiness you may have. It is also crucial to avoid alcohol consumption and certain medications. To keep your RBD under control, regulate your neurologic symptoms and treat any other sleep disorders than might interfere with your sleep. Sleep deprivation, alcohol, certain medications, and other sleep disorders can all increase RBD, and should be avoided if possible

I reworded the original sentence for the sake of the organization of the paragraph.

I also improved the symptoms section: In a normal sleep cycle, you may experience REM sleep every1 1/2 to 2 hours every night. Which means RBD episodes may occur up to four times a night. In a rare case, they may only happen once a week or once a month.[1]

-Note that I got all of my contributions from the same source (listed above) SCayce1230 (talk) 17:47, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Atonia

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rapid_eye_movement_behavior_disorder&action=edit&section=1 Atonia is a normal in ordinary REM sleep. Not a patological process.( Only during sleep paralysis is atonia dissociated from REM sleep dreams (it is often frigting, associated with awaking, dreams, paralysis and dreams.)(parasomnia. jmak (talk) 05:10, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit

Take out "during otherwise intact REM sleep." to simplify the sentence. Spell out Rapid Eye Movement Behavior Disorder in "RBD is characterized by the dreamer acting out his or her dreams." "In a rare case, they may only happen once a week or once a month" this sentence does not seem necessary. "for example multiple system atrophy and Lewy body dementia." this information is not necessary and drags out the sentence. Gvanstee (talk) 18:53, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Lancet Neurol

doi:10.1016/S1474-4422(16)00057-0 JFW | T@lk 22:03, 8 March 2016 (UTC)