Talk:Ray-Ban

Time discrepancy

How could Ray-Ban been comissioned by the USAF when the USAF did not exist until 1947? I believe this should be the US Army Air Corps.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.46.198.231 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 26 June 2007

The article needs to be written in a better form. Such a known brand should be placed and positioned well (122.174.242.247 (talk) 08:02, 28 April 2016 (UTC))

Written like advertisement

This article, particularly the summary and history, sound a lot like an advertisement for the product. Phrases like 'Hollywood films found them to be very elegant' and 'the unique Ray-Ban lifestyle is embodied in its collections, reflected throughout hundreds of films, and remains the choice eyewear brand of celebrities both in real life and in films' make this entry sound much more like something out of a Ray Ban pamphlet than an unbiased wiki article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.173.23 (talk) 23:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is just a big advertisement. Can someone please mark it as such. I can't seem to find that function. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.22.9.87 (talk) 07:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree, this page is one big advertisement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.89.173.93 (talk) 20:40, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it was terrible. I hope that I have made it less terrible. -- Hoary (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm in agreement with all. Somebody please go and remove all the things that say "50% stronger" and similar. Should be neutral.67.44.162.42 (talk) 04:42, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Ray-Ban Rooms

Before I arrived and made some edits:

Ray-Ban has a long-standing association with music as the sunglasses brand commissioned [http://www.zonecontent.com/ Zone] to develop an online presence for [http://www.ray-ban-rooms.com/ Ray-Ban Rooms], their summer music festival [[sponsorship]]. Ray-Ban Rooms support young upcoming artists and record their sessions for online streaming. Ray-Ban products are featured seamlessly within the editorial mix, with extensive use of photography showcasing the range.<ref name="Zone Digital Content Agency">{{cite web|title=Ray-Ban Rooms|url=http://www.zonecontent.com/ray-ban-rooms|publisher=Zone Content|accessdate=28 March 2012}}</ref>

After my recent set of edits:

Ray-Ban commissioned Zone<ref group="n">Zone's website is [http://www.zonecontent.com/ here].</ref> to develop a website for Ray-Ban Rooms, their summer music festival [[sponsorship]]. Ray-Ban Rooms<ref group="n">Ray-Ban Rooms' website is [http://www.ray-ban-rooms.com/ here]].</ref> support young musicians and record their sessions for online streaming. Ray-Ban products are advertised within the editorial mix, with many photographs.{{Citation needed|date=March 2012}}

All this seems to boil down to is

Ray-Ban paid a company called Zone to create a website (ray-ban-rooms.com) for it that would show musicians wearing their sunglasses.

Am I missing some Greater Significance? -- Hoary (talk) 09:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing

This article has recently had a lot of material added, seemingly as part of this project, and via this sandbox. Okay, but -- even aside from the material about Iran, which cites no references at all -- the sources cited are on average dreadful: PR puffery, blog posts, material by retailers, and so on. This just is not good enough: Wikipedia requires reliable sources.

I spent two hours on the article today, adding nothing and merely removing the worst material and questioning much besides. The result is still terrible, just less so.

For additional work, I suggest the use of newspaper and periodical articles (if necessary via databases). No more press releases, blogs, retailers, content farms, etc. -- Hoary (talk) 10:08, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Abadan

When I got here, the article told its readers:

Sometimes commercial products gain a cultural significance within a new market when exported around the globe. An interesting case is how Ray-bans have a special place as a status symbol of wealth in the southern port city of Abadan in Iran. Before it's Islamic revolution of 1979, Iran was a fast growing oil rich country that was a big consumer of everything western. At the time, Abadan was a vibrant oil exporting port city with a constant stream of international visitors from sailors to corporate executives. Abadan was very much like any other sunny settlement by the sea, with a relaxed sun culture of flip flops and sunglasses. Sometime between the 1960s and the 70s, [[Ray-Ban]] became the must have brand in Abadan. The name has become a word in the local dialect and is used as the general word for sunglasses, pronounced Raybon. Most of the jokes about the Abadan region in Iran center around their love affair with [[Ray-Ban]] sunglasses. One goes something like this: An Abadani was walking when suddenly a flood hits. He quickly takes off his rubber flip flops and places his Ray-Ban's on them and and says "Save yourself, don't worry about me". Even on an Abadani social network site [http://abadan.ning.com/ Abadan], the default pictures have Ray-Ban's for eyes.

Much of this is unencyclopedic, so I removed this part of it. The rest of it is totally unsourced, except for the assertion that a website uses a picture of a head in Ray-Bans as its default user avatar. I was able to verify that it does indeed have a default-looking image of a head in sunglasses. This looks no more Ray-Ban-specific and indeed no more interesting than the sunglass-wearing default graphic in many other websites. And so a few minutes ago I removed the rest of this stuff. -- Hoary (talk) 23:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

This Abadan/Ray-Ban thing is well-known but poorly documented. There's a reference to it in this essay by Danish academic Rasmus Elling. https://abadancm.com/2015/02/18/when-irans-abadan-was-capital-of-the-world/

The line in that essay is "The most important item was sunglasses, a trade mark of Abadan — to such an extent that there is a whole genre of jokes in Iran related to the Abadani love of Ray-Bans."

Also, here's a video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tghIpucivQ

There are likely more references out there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:E0D0:7F00:EC13:6B0F:F599:4853 (talk) 22:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Lennon

I always thought that Lennon wore only Teeshades (Ray Ban Round Metal) similar to those of Mahatma Ghandi. Not Wayfarers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.166.233 (talk) 17:31, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Photochromic lenses

By the way, photochromic lenses (sometimes called chameleons) WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION - are they real? The thing is, my eyesight's 100%, but I suffer with photophobia even indoors and at night. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.166.233 (talk) at 19:57, 27 April 2012

The place for a question about the physics of "photochromic" lenses is the "reference desk". (If you have a medical question, do not post it there and instead ask an ophthalmologist.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:58, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

I ain't no brave at all. So, I'm afraid to BECOME myope or hyperope unless my photochromic lenses will be plano!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.198.168.158 (talk) 00:08, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Ad tag?

Since when did this sound like an advertisement? Epicgenius^{(talk to me • see my contributions)} 02:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Merging Aviator and Wayfarer articles with this one?

Is it really necessary to have a separate article for the Ray-Ban Aviator and the Ray-Ban Wayfarer, instead of just merging those two with Ray-Ban? Seems like much of what is written on those two articles are repeated in this one. Seb8808 (talk) 21:53, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Ad

I deleted some garbage that just quoted directly material from their ad campaign. Also, I'm thinking that the celebrity endorsement section could be deleted and rolled into the celebrity usage subsection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.104.167 (talk) 05:53, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

American brand?

If it is owned by an Italian company, does it still qualify as an "American brand"? Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 09:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Scams

Should there be a section on all the social media scams? Also I'm curious how the company is allowed to get away with it. It's literally an epidemic on sites like Facebook. Every day you see someone with either a phished account or a completely fake account sharing free Ray Ban scams. I can't believe that the company is in no way involved. Someone has to be getting paid by someone at Ray Ban to do these things. They've literally become synonymous with social media scams in pop culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.191.15.34 (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

I would assume it is individuals selling Ray-Bans or Ray-Ban fakes, not the company itself?

But the popularity of Ray-Bans in spam is notable and worth including.

EDLIS Café 21:40, 22 April 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EdRicardo (talk • contribs)

Tumblr has recently got a wave of scammers and hackers using fake Ray-Ban ads. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.248.242.115 (talk) 15:21, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Bob Dylan never wore Ray-Ban Wayfarers

Bob Dylan never wore Ray-Ban Wayfarers

Look at the photographs and the hinges. His were Imperial Optical V.P. frames!

The frame was made in the U.S.A. by Imperial Optical of Miami Florida. Frame Size 48/23(Measured in mm. 48mm eye size, 23mm bridge size) Temple Length 5 3/4" Hinge to hinge 5 1/8" Full front width 5 11/16" Inside lens height 31mm Top to bottom frame height 1 7/16" (37mm)

https://rvelo.wordpress.com/2011/09/08/bob-dylans-sunglasses/

EDLIS Café 21:38, 22 April 2016 (UTC) EDLIS Café 11:32, 9 June 2016 (UTC) EDLIS Café 11:33, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Where manufactured?

It would improve the article if the current and past manufacturing locations of Ray-Ban's were identified in the article. For example, classic pre 1999 Ray-Bans then owned by B&L "could" be assumed to be US or North American produced. --TGC55 (talk) 11:56, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Is this a Ray-Ban?

Herbert von Karajan 1963

This is famous conductor Herbert von Karajan in 1963. Is this a model from Ray Ban, or if not, what else? Pittigrilli (talk) 19:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Information Studies

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