Talk:Raymond Petit

References

Dear Sirs, As the article on Raymond Petit is threatened by deletion because of a lack of references, a friend and I have repeatedly been trying to add references. However every attempt has immediately been frustrated by deletion whithin a few seconds. Could you kindly provide me with indications as to how I could give you valid references? (I'm afraid that your help pages have proved incomprehensible to us) Yours sincerely, Raymond Petit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raymchen (talk • contribs) 14:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I am afraid that you really should not add anything because it is a conflict of interest, as noted on your talk page. Furthermore, one of the images you were trying to load is definitely copyrighted even though you have loaded it to Commons as being free of copyright/permission granted. I'm a Cambridge University man & know how the college journals work.

Another "revert" was because you used another Wikipedia article as a reference. You cannot do this, nor could you in any encyclopedia. It is a "circular reference - WP:CIRCULAR explains.

The article is, in my opinion, getting a bit long on lists and short on detail. Pictures of sculptures will not rectify that. Perhaps take a look at the articles for other sculptors to see what sort of style is acceptable - Moore, Frink etc must have articles.

Feel free to contact me on my talk page for help, but I'd stress the paragraph above. You need independent sources and more "proper" text. WP:RELIABLE and WP:Verifiable should give you some guidance on what qualifies. - Sitush (talk) 14:26, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Dear Sir,

Thank you very much for your prompt reply. I think I understand your point about the excerpt from the "Balliol College Record". I do, however, fail to see what other than newspaper articles could provide independent sources of my work or carreer as a sculptor. The articles I submitted are not yet digitized by the newspapers, nor put online by them.

Yours sincerely,

Raymond Petit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.99.25.31 (talk) 14:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Newspapers are fine if they are "reliable" papers. Which should not be a problem in your case because I do not think the likes of The Sun or The Mirror (UK tabloid papers) are likely to report on sculpture. Anything in The Times, Guardian. Independent, Daily Telegraph etc would be ok. As would anything in a decent art journal or on a reputable website (Balliol's, for example).

But I stress, you really should not be doing this yourself and it is not images which are needed. Sure, some would be good but right now the real issue is lack of information. Does this make sense?

By the way, when you get to the end of a message, type four ~ signs - this will automatically produce a signature like this ---> Sitush (talk) 14:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)