Talk:Raziel

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There is quite a wealth of information out there about all the Archangels that appear in the context of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I think all of these Angels should be mentioned in the main Archangel article, or, be given a new page that describes each Archangel in depth.

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can anyone shed light on the etymology? What root is rz "secret", and are there any cognates? dab (ᛏ) 16:08, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

"This is the truth"

The article is a bit too open-minded for bullshit: "The Book of Raziel was last known to be in the hands of Solomon. It has since disappeared." As far as I know, king Solomon is very much myth and claims claimed by pseudonymous writers (claiming themselves to be King Solomon) et.c... This article is thus also bullshit and based on myths. It should at least say something like "Myths tells us that the book was last seen in the hands of King Solomon" and then have citation or link to some CREDITABLE source. -- Posted by Crakkpot

Apparently, you missed the whole "within the teachings of Jewish mysticism" thing. Should we precede every sentence with "Myths tell us that..." just to appease folks who choose to read only a part of a section? —XSG 04:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Legacy of Kain

Please quit adding Legacy of Kain information to this page. That's what the disambiguation link is for. If it gets added again, I'll delete it again. —XSG 01:43, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

As promised. —XSG 16:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

How about the following: "The lead character of the Soul Reaver series of video games is named after Raziel"? - SkarmoryThePG 16:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Damn, you're good. Can't argue with that edit... I'll put it in now. Thanks! —XSG 21:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

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Current article mentions Raziel as archangel of Chokmah in Briah. Isn't Chockmah part of the supernal triangle and therefore in Aziluth? Not sure enough to edit article; someone else?

Disambiguation

Shouldn't Raziel be the disambiguation page itself? - SkarmoryThePG 16:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

That's debatable, and I don't have a definitive answer. I've had it both ways in the past. —XSG 21:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Azrael

This was added today:

Azrael is the anagram for Raziel.

While this is true, I don't see any relevance. —XSG 03:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Are you sure it's true? :) - SkarmoryThePG 09:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Azrael is indeed an anagram for Raziel, just as Alucard is the anagram for Dracula. Keep in mind that institutionalized religions are all run by people, all religion in point of fact is felt, believed and spoken of by us (humans) down through the ages, if one cares to look, many of the names we hold dear within religious sects are interspersed between schools of belief. It is only natural that we alter the spellings and pronunciations to further the acceptance of our chosen paths, the roman catholic church for example has copies of every religious text the world over, and the bible they preach from has excerpts from them, placed throughout... even going insofar as to adopt many icons, and organizational practices of pagan origin... the proof is there if one is not blind to it. "Seek truth and find the fine balance of dark and light that many would never think was there." - Raziel A. Malchia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.161.143 (talk) 09:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

"Anagram" means the words use all the same letters, "Azrael" and "Raziel" do not. The rest of your comment is irrelevant to improving the article, please refrain from using article talk pages for soapboxing. — Jean Calleo ^(talk) 09:49, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I apologize, I wasn't intending to "soapbox", in reguards to your rebuke however i have seen linguistic alteration to "raziel" spelled and pronounced "Razael" in reference to the same mythic being. that is more what i was trying to point out in my earlier post, the innate ability for humans to make mistakes when translating, or reconfiguring the spellings of things; like names, into a native tongue. I accept fault due to inaddequate wording on my part. -Raziel A. Malchia

Cassandra Clare

Just removed this:

Raziel is mentioned as the creator of Shadowhunters in Cassandra Clare's book, City of Bones

Considering that Cassandra Clare has never been published before and that her novel, City of Bones, isn't due for release until April, 2007, I don't think this actually qualified as an appearance in arts or popular culture... yet. —XSG 07:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I added the info again, seeing as it is now 2011.--Auric (talk) 21:56, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Raziel = Leizar (Lezard [fr], Lizard [en]) ? See reptilians. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.202.102.78 (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

Uh, yeah. Whatever you say... —XSG 04:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 21:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Connection to "Realms of the Haunting"

There's this fellow named "Raysiel" (as spelled in the captions) who guards the entrance to the Maze of Raquia, and threatens to imprison those who lose his "games" until Judgment Day. He goes on to say he "takes no pleasure in it", possibly indicating that he is not so much an intelligent being as a construct performing a function. Regardless of his or its nature, he/it "keeps a secret" in a way, and the name is awfully similar, so ought not it be added to the "in popular culture" list? 67.142.174.26 (talk) 04:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC) predcon

Primary sources

The article mentions "teachings of Jewish mysticism" but doesn't actually say in which ancient and medieval texts Raziel appears. --114.77.234.183 (talk) 10:00, 28 August 2021 (UTC)